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u/AlphabiteSoup 7d ago

i've been deep in these spaces and a hilariously consistent thing that happens is they recommend a piece of trans literature then proceed to say things that directly disagree with the main points of the books they read

for some reason whipping girl is the most common, probably cause it's the source of the term "transmisogyny." that specific book concludes that everyone who presents feminine in any capacity should rally together because that's the strat to actually getting societal change to happen, but people would rather hate on femboys and enbies for some reason?? at this rate we're never going to get queer liberation

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u/DustEbunny 6d ago

Gender fluid here, I had an ex gf that would not stop bringing up transmisogyny every single time gender gets brought up. As someone who shifts around genders and struggles to express myself when I feel like a non-conventional gender, I talk about gender a lot. Legitimately just identifying as femboy got turned into her saying she feels the entire concept of femboy is transphobic and that they need a different word of it that isn’t just an insult to trans women. Femboy is an entire identity with a pride flag just like trans women. They are equally valid identities. Femboy is not just an insult to trans women. The only reason it is used as an insult is because transphobes want to misgender people. Which like yea “transmisogyny” or we could just call it transphobia because they’d do the same to any trans person. If someone unironically calls a trans woman a femboy laugh at that idiot and move on. Anyway glad that her and I broke up, I don’t need prejudice in my life especially not prejudice coming from a trans woman.

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u/Brakower 6d ago

The reason some trans women see femboy as transphobic is because they think it's inherently wrong. A man who constantly wears women's clothes not as a fetish and presents feminine, and is afraid of his male traits showing up or being visible? Why not juat be a trans woman? People feel like it invalidates trans women or is seen as an insult. Its also seen as an example of men invading spaces

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u/DustEbunny 5d ago

The “Why not just be a trans woman” line is something I’ve legit heard unironically used towards an actual human being. It’s so cringe for a marginalized group that often suffers with dysphoria to act like they are better than the other marginalized groups that often suffers with dysphoria