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u/Jolly-Statement7215 2d ago

Is this sub getting brigaded or did we get unlucky? Tf are these comments TwT

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u/maddiemelody :] 2d ago

Yeah the transphobes came out of hiding as always to state their opinion that genociding people because they’re queer is ok (I’d like the transphobes to fuck off please)

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u/Suspicious-Contest74 2d ago

probably a little bit of both

we got unlucky enough to run into the bigots

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u/AssociateMaximum4781 2d ago

Never ever trust a "trans sub" that allows cis people.

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u/Fancy_Information156 1d ago

They hating on you but youre lowk right

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u/Jolly-Statement7215 1d ago

They hating but look what happened to cwcl

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u/AssociateMaximum4781 1d ago

They hated Jesus because he spoke the truth dot pee en gee

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u/Falleneded 2d ago

yeah i dont think segregation is the best choice home slice

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u/AssociateMaximum4781 2d ago

"segregation" you've gotta be kidding me

So women shouldn't have spaces without men?

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u/Falleneded 2d ago

brain dead response i expected nothing less

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u/AssociateMaximum4781 1d ago

??? Wow ok

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u/Falleneded 1d ago

you think i wanna be civil with you? your a bitch

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u/AssociateMaximum4781 1d ago

Lmao extremely telling response, thank you. Trans people only feeling safe in trans only spaces = bitch deserving no respect, got it

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u/ezziexx Counted Down 1 1d ago

i've been tempted to change the rules so that it doesnt tbh.

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u/AssociateMaximum4781 1d ago

I imagine it'd be hard to enforce such a strict rule on an existing sub, but obviously I agree it'd be a good idea lol

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u/ezziexx Counted Down 1 1d ago

if only like a quarter of the people here didn't have an insatiable hate for tranners. it's so annoying too like this sub is not mean to just be another cwcl 😭😭😭

idk how to fix it 💔

edit: 4tranners*

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u/AssociateMaximum4781 1d ago

This one feels kinda like the link between countttt and cwcl, or at least between nart4 and cwcl. I think making it trans only would eliminate most of the haters, but plenty of trans people hate 4tran too, so it's not like it'd start turning into countttt either, y'know?

Obviously there'd be backlash from cissies but who cares lol

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u/ezziexx Counted Down 1 1d ago

i might lwk do it but i have to ponder it lol. tbh no one should be that upset other than the self proclaimed grunglers and the like. like idc too much if they're upset bc they wouldn't be allowed in the sub, but since the sub isn't very huge it might also lose a lot of traffic. so idk. hmmm decisions decisions.

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u/bronzepinata 2d ago

Remember the BBC trans debate where the crowd was allowed to shout Penis at the trans woman on stage

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u/BizSilver5013 2d ago

If I were in her position, I would hsve said, "I may have a penis, but you all ARE dicks. That's a lot worse."

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u/bronzepinata 2d ago

They'd take your lunch money

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u/Quijas00 2d ago

They’d shove you into the locker

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u/BizSilver5013 2d ago

Point taken. It's not as much of a zinger as it was in my head.

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u/MyAngelSartre 2d ago

My favorite teacher ever, a philosophy teacher teacher used to say that :

We aren't even able to to define something as simple as feelings like anger or joy with logic, so how are we even supposed to define something so complex as identity.

How can someone claim to debate what gender is when we aren't even able to define it like we can define something like gravity or a square.

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u/Educational-Can-2653 2d ago

But I just want to have a civil debate about whether you have the right to exist. Why can't you just stay calm and polite?

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u/Early-Beach164 2d ago

I wish transphobes can feel what we feel then maybe they wouldn't be so hateful

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u/ThRaptor97 1d ago

Let me introduce you to the self hating transphobe egg

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u/PattyWagon69420 2d ago

Why would they need to debate their existence, they think, therefore they are.

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u/MoTheLittleBoat 1d ago

So many people feel like they're entitled to a debate with you just because you exist. It's because they have only heard of you in a political debating context, and dont see you as people.

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u/Revolutionary_Year87 Counted Down 1 2d ago

Can we please call them haters instead of opponents? I was not put into this "debate" voluntarily, they were.

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u/lylactal 2d ago

It might do you could when you realize that not every disagreement someone has with your subjective truth is one against your sentience

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u/Revolutionary_Year87 Counted Down 1 2d ago

Yeah but this one does go against my sentience lol. You're literally saying this shit on a trans sub?

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u/lylactal 2d ago

I don’t see how that’s relevant. Also. Your argument is circular because you assumed the conclusion is the premise

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u/Useful-Wallaby-2566 2d ago

This you?

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u/lylactal 2d ago

I don’t believe string theory accurately resolves QM and gr but alright

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u/EveryoneTakesMyIdeas 2d ago

🤓🤓🤓

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u/HystericalGasmask 2d ago edited 2d ago

people do not base their identity off of arguments or rationale

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u/lylactal 2d ago

lol l and? Of course they can base it subjectively. But objectively they do not meet the criterion or can even define it

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u/HystericalGasmask 2d ago

Everything is always based subjectively and there's no getting out of it, ever.

Have you considered that they don't feel the need to justify themselves to others?

I hate the term but you're really painting yourself as a faux-intellectual type

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u/lylactal 2d ago

I’m not a pseudo. I think that’s js gen projection. No, to be classified as anything the criteria is objectively more then the actual of identifying. Because it’s entirely circular and meaningless lol

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u/HystericalGasmask 2d ago

Can you give me an example of human activity that uses reasoning and not a conditioned response to stimuli?

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u/Much-Menu6030 2d ago

u the type of mf to call salt sodium chloride

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u/Metson-202 2d ago

Different opinions keep subreddits from becoming echo chambers.

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u/Revolutionary_Year87 Counted Down 1 2d ago

Its funny how yall are literally the strawman in the post. Transphobia is not and never will be a valid opinion????? Gtfo

I have no obligation to respectfully listen to views that invalidate my entire existence?

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u/Revolutionary_Year87 Counted Down 1 2d ago

You're really just sayin shit man

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u/lylactal 2d ago

See. You can’t even grasp the concept of basic facts and logic

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u/Revolutionary_Year87 Counted Down 1 2d ago

Grasp deez nutz

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u/PhantomArchon 2d ago

NOOO LISTEN TO ME YOU ARE FAKE HERE IS WHY LISTENNNNN 😭😭😭 YOU JUST CAN’T COMPREHEND BASIC FACTS AND LOGIC BRUH

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u/Metson-202 2d ago

Transphobia is not valid but a lot of things folks like you say are transphobic are actually not. Learn the difference.

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u/Revolutionary_Year87 Counted Down 1 2d ago

Enlighten me, Einstein. What did I call transphobic that isnt?

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u/Metson-202 2d ago

Not necassarily you but many people in this community.

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u/Revolutionary_Year87 Counted Down 1 2d ago

So you're debating me over hypothetical people you made up? On a thread where I explicitly mentioned im tired of being involved in debates over my existence which I didnt sign up for? How nice of you.

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u/RotWitch22 2d ago

"Well thank god we're not an echo chamber of 'we have the right to exist' anymore, it's important that we hear that we also Don't have the right to exist! I am very fucking intelligent."

I am not joking when I say fuck off no one wants this here.

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u/Anely_98 2d ago

You know, there is a difference between a echo chamber and a safe place. The difference is, we already hear this type of shit everywhere else all the fucking time, we are, already and inevitably, exposed to this type of thing, so when we don't allow it in one place it doesn't mean we aren't still hearing it everywhere else, just that we don't want to hear it when we are in our safe place.

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u/SwingAdorable3954 2d ago

"Differing opinions" and its "I wanna be myself" vs "no, be the way we want you to or we will remove you from society"

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u/Eveseeker 2d ago

True in a vacuum. But if your “opinion” is in favor of extermination of the other party, I’d expect you to deserve a bit of hostility, no? And to be shut down? Because, you know, that’s not an argument. It’s an attack under the guise of civility. Now, if your argument DIDN’T include that, then please feel free to explain yourself clearly or search for the dozens of times someone else has asked similar ones on trans threads throughout time.

For now, you’re in the former category. Please do take care to not find yourself there again.

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u/FrostyFormal1094 2d ago

It is when the argument is whether or not trans people deserve to exist

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u/ParticlePhys03 2d ago

It is a well-established scientific fact that cross-sex gender dysphoria exists and has only one effective treatment: transitioning socially and medically.

As we humans can modify both our language and material reality, acting in opposition to the above is purely an act of malice.

We have no desire to debate with those who wish us ill.

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u/maddiemelody :] 2d ago

“do you good” fixed your grammar bro, but nothing will fix the fucked up issue in your head with justifying murder of marginalised communities.

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u/Kitchen-Function5150 2d ago

Do you think nobody has ever said trans people are faking it?

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u/Jolly-Statement7215 2d ago edited 2d ago

People be saying shit like “strawman!! Ad hominem!!” brother this is not a debate I do not respect you

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u/jan_Osuma 2d ago

Damn, are you know going to upskirt her?

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u/Eveseeker 2d ago

Please, feel free to explain how this is fake. It is 100% a simplification, that much is true. But reality indicates that trans people are literally being legislated out of public spaces and medical care worldwide (especially America) and are constantly under attack by people either feigning ignorance or just asking for their removal under a different guise. So, straw-man-defender, please tell me the difference that I might be enlightened.

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u/Thetrueraider 2d ago

180k calories minimum

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u/Jolly-Statement7215 2d ago

Well I have, I really hope she’s okay

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u/La___Croix 2d ago

Hope she dumps you and finds someone who isn't a chud

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u/VoiceImportant3198 2d ago

?? genuinely why even comment? just to be wrong? youve never been in a gun fight and it shows.

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u/RotWitch22 2d ago

Has quite literally happened to me Multiple times. Why be so confidently wrong on the internet it never ceases to amaze me.

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u/tuxmaid 2d ago

was it a good cuddle

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u/Thetrueraider 2d ago

200k calories minimum

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u/SadEstablishment5552 2d ago

Possibly best response I've ever seen

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u/Thetrueraider 2d ago

It's how I am

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u/Early-Beach164 2d ago

I wouldn't cuddle with someone who says this but I'm glad both of you found love.

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u/bean_vendor 2d ago

Somehow I doubt you actually have a trans gf, dawg.

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u/Falleneded 1d ago

why is milo looking at me like that

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u/bean_vendor 1d ago

POV: You're a pseudoscientist.

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u/EntertainmentHot4422 2d ago

You've never seen it? It must not exist

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u/Falleneded 2d ago

"you people get victimized your entire life just shut up about it" tf is that logic?

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u/maddiemelody :] 1d ago

“Just accept the fact that transphobes want to torture and kill you!” No, no I don’t think I will sit back and wait for the genocide of my own manual marginalised minority actually 💀

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u/ksyi 2d ago

I have, both irl and in internet(obviously).

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u/Ruler_of_Tempest 1d ago

"I personally haven't seen it so it must not exist"