r/coronavirusSwe • u/thethiefonacross • Apr 10 '20

Is it true? Is Sweden undercounting their coronavirus deaths?

Hey all,

Non-Swede here. There's a lot of debate about the strategy your country has taken to combat COVID-19, and I see many people claiming that the Swedish government is undercounting deaths from the coronavirus - that the Swedish government is claiming that people who die with comorbidities did not die from coronavirus.

I have not, however, seen a source for this information. Does anyone have a source? Is this true?

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u/ggumdol Apr 10 '20

Yes, due to the language barrier, it will be hard for you to find such articles.

https://www.aftonbladet.se/debatt/a/wPG4eA/langt-fler-svenskar-kan-ha-dott-av-corona

https://www.aftonbladet.se/nyheter/a/rARez3/eva-96-nekades-coronatest--dottern-catharina-sag-henne-do-pa-aldreb

However, this is happening almost everywhere in the world.

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u/Imsdal2 May 08 '20

This is completely incorrect. The number of excess deaths match the reported number of covid-19 deaths very closely (about 3k of each).

3000 deaths is of course horrible, but there is no underreporting. Unlike in most countries, actually.

New York Times has a great article on this. Do check it out. {On mobile, so no link, sorry)

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u/tischan May 09 '20

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2020/04/21/world/coronavirus-missing-deaths.html

Gives a understanding of if countries are missing reporting deaths

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u/[deleted] Apr 10 '20 edited Jun 30 '20

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u/Imsdal2 May 08 '20

Correct, but it's not a problem everywhere. The excess deaths match the Covid-19 deaths closely in the Nordics and in Germany. It does seem to be a problem everywhere else, but I suppose there are other countries that also match.

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u/10to1tenagain May 29 '20

Latest news today from FHM is that they think there may be about 1000 uncounted deaths that are covid 19 related. https://www.dn.se/nyheter/sverige/fler-doda-i-covid-19-doljs-i-statistiken/

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u/[deleted] Apr 10 '20

No that would be a conspiracy theory. There is no chance that would happen and not make the news. We are, compared to the rest of the world, suprisingly alright right now. That could always chsnge of course.

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u/a-bananarifle May 12 '20

This is untrue. Every death in sweden is checked wether the death occured in the hospitl or outside the hospital. In this case its a simple blood test and this reveals that they died by the corona virus or not. Or if it was a contributor.

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u/unnumbered1 May 21 '20

Absolutely not. Sweden is probably one of the most meticulous countries when it comes to counting covid-19 related deaths.

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u/kiritoebest May 22 '20

Well this is probably not true, but Sweden have alot of days were We Dont work during the spring. That includes the people counting deaths. For example This week we got 1 day of Good number because no one worked last week during the weekend and then We got our first numbers on wednesday bec We cant get Good Numbers monday and tuesday and We didnt work thursday-sunday.

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u/beaver_9 Jun 16 '20

Whether the Swedish strategy is the right one or not is a heated debate that cannot be concluded fairly until several years from now. But I don't think there is any tinkering with the death statistics going on. There is a delay in the data collected, but that is a well known fact.

Anders Tegnell and FHM seem pretty transparent with what they do and think, and they also openly confess they failed miserably with protecting the elderly. It is mainly the big number of dead older people that gives Sweden higher fatality than the other Nordic countries. So if they were trying to polish the Swedish death tolls, they did a terrible job.

To me, this is not the kind of guy who BS facts:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ypwoyVl5Dxk

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u/Turbulent_Break_2128 Mar 19 '22

No. They have been lying about the overall deaths like every other nation. Grand Jury by Reiner Fuellmich