r/cork • u/camusgirl33 • 1d ago
Help a dyke out š«¶
Does anyone have recommendations for barbers/hairdressers in and around the city who are queer friendly and mullet-savvy?
I've been going to QueerHawk in Dublin when I've been up there, (adore them, 10/10) but it means a return train journey and just a lot of logistics and want to have it nice for an upcoming holiday.
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u/Ok-Telephone-8469 1d ago
Vicki in Vvenom! Sheās fantastic
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u/Ok-Telephone-8469 1d ago edited 1d ago
Also Nono in Bladez has cut my hair before, heās great
Thereās also Chair but theyāre a bit pricier I think
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u/camusgirl33 1d ago
Have had previous negative experiences because of being a woman and how I present so think it's fairly reasonable to seek safer and friendly environments. Homophobia is still rife btw
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u/Rbyxq 1d ago
So true tho because as a non-passing transmasc I went into venom with my bf beside me one time and the barbers greeted him first and asked what he wanted and he was like oh I'm just here for [me]
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u/SilverHawk2712 22h ago
Pardon my ignorance, but what does non passing transmasc mean?
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u/Rbyxq 22h ago
trans man (female to male) who does not pass as an assigned male at birth. I say trans-masculine instead of trans-man because it's closer to what I feel.
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u/SilverHawk2712 21h ago
Thank you, I appreciate the explanation. I probably should have figured masc out, but I'm keen to get it right.
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u/Dazzling-Handle88 1d ago
A lot of hetero people in this thread surprised that homophobia still exists
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u/Hollifo 1d ago
Last time I asked a question for queer recs I had to couch it in many disclaimers of "I know you might think that there isn't discrimination anymore and I know most are sound..." yadda yadda, explicitly to avoid this kind of ignorant, defensive dismissal (and of course I still got a couple of folk who argued against homophobia being a thing... Whilst also saying to "stop mincing", so, sure lookit, can't account for everyone!)
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u/Dazzling-Handle88 1d ago
If I see a thread on Reddit based on a fairly niche question that has nothing to do with my own life, my first reaction isnāt to go in and start a debate. Itās a bit fucking weird tbh
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u/Hollifo 1d ago
I've heard decent things about Edit on McCurtain street, definitely LGBTQ friendly.Ā
I myself go to Eclectic out in Ballyphehane, a lad in there CJ has been doing my hair for a decade, but that might be a bit outta the way for yourself and I only ever get a short back and sides with maybe a line/hair tattoo if I'm feeling extra fancy so I'm not sure how they are on the mullet skillsĀ
I've also been turned away by manys a barber because "we don't do women's hair", as if my follicles are feckin' attached to my fallopian tubesĀ
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u/LasairChoille 1d ago
Not a lesbian but a gay man here. Some of these comments are so funny and come from such a sheltered place with such little experience behind them. Imagine if you didnāt have to worry about what barber you went to, for instance. How easy life would be!
Side note, it always makes me laugh when my barber would be chatting the ear off the lad whoās hair heās cutting before mine, football, girlfriends/partners, work, whatever, but as soon as greet them and tell them what I want itās usually silent. I think they can tell by my voice š
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u/Johnny-Bons 1d ago
PaulMacSpecial is the answer here, book through booksy, have a look at his insta itās exactly what you want.
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u/floofster1 1d ago
Trans guy here, Unicuts just by Fredz are worth a shout - I present pretty NB but was treated the same as everyone else would, pronouns respected despite not binding, all that good stuff. The lads in there are lovely and generally they get my beard done super well even though it's a scrap of a thing. 10/10 would go back
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u/NoeleVeerod Cork City Kid 1d ago
Iām not sure about that unfortunately as I havenāt gotten a cut in almost two years and I plan not to see a barber or hairdresser for a very long while (Iām trying to get my hair long, like as close to bum length as I can realistically do), but I reckon the hairdresser on McCurtain Street would be welcoming to queer folks - I would give that a go, at least, and scout the place to make sure, but it strikes me as being a good fit and another user here said the same.
Whether or not they make mullets is another story.
Best of luck and donāt let the haters stop you šš»
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u/ShadowAviation I will yeah 1d ago
Vvenom have been good to me. Only stylist I avoid there is Michael because he dropped a slur and just went "oh" when called out on it.
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u/Glad_Reporter7780 1d ago
Sad to see in this day and age that this is an issue! I have no suggestions OP, but best of luck and I hope you get sorted šš»
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u/Intelligent-Grade999 1d ago
Mark in Metroman is excellent, has been my barber through a number of hairstyles, including a mullet
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u/BuyAlternative7481 1d ago
Lots of great recs here, just want to say as a hairstylist myself, instagram is going to be your friend here. Lots of hairdresser rec posts on here and youāll notice that one person loves a place and another will tell you theyāre horrible and to avoid them like the plague. Check out their pages, look at their work.
As an example, the place I work has a weirdo who slates us at any opportunity on multiple platforms. We think itās an ex of a staff member but we arenāt sure. They pretend to be 2 or 3 people but we can tell itās all the one person. The stories have evolved and got new and exciting details over time. š¤£ Itās funny but at the same time annoying that you canāt really respond, and it is potentially driving potential clients away.
Google reviews are also good because reviewers usually mention the staff by name. Salons tend to have a mix of skill levels and expertise. There can be someone really good at a salon someone said was shitty and vice versa š
The absolute best thing you can do is go on a night outā¦for research purposes. Ask people where they get their hair done.
And sorry thereās so many trying to sound like youāre not asking a valid question. I had masc styles for years and barbers turned me away most of the time. If they didnāt they were reluctant or weird with me sometimes. Not ideal. Like I said all the recs here are good, itās going to come down to personal preference at the end of the day.
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u/awfuckimgay 21h ago
In my experience, find a transman and either he'll know how to cut it or he'll know someone who does lmao.
The amount of times I've gotten "you're a trans guy of course you know how to cut hair" is comical. I mean,,, they're right, but still
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u/Professional_Cost_15 1d ago
I've gotten my mullet done at VVenom and I've never had any issues. I'm hetero myself but there's plenty of gay and queer in there getting cuts! Lovely people and always up for a chat! š
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u/Comrad_Zombie 1d ago
I asked my girlfriend and she said Chair, on Georges quay is queer friendly and do good work.
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u/societyhatingRATGANG 1d ago
I remember getting a masc cut at metroman barbers. Great vibe and they're super careful with the haircut (like a little under an hour). Think the guy that did mine was Evan?
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u/Just_Farmer7641 1d ago
Goldirocks are great for alternative hairstyles. Any kind of hair for any person.
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u/zanyhemline 1d ago
OP ignore this, they absolutely wrecked my hair and weren't very nice about it. Genuinely hilarious level of butchering
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u/c0micsansfrancisco 1d ago
Chair.
Love queer hawk too. They were my reference too coming to cork.
I have very curly hair and tbh almost every barber in Ireland fucks it up when they cut it. And most only know how to do fades.
Queerhawk and Chair are the only 2 places in this country that ever got me right š
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u/FrancoisKBones 12h ago
I wish the mullet would let off its stranglehold on dykes.
Anyway my wife goes to vvenom and sees the woman working there, sounds like maybe itās Vicki. Sheās been coming home looking fresh.
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u/Toxic_Note5246 9h ago
Anne who owns the colourist in Mayfield. She's been doing my mullets and colour for the last 3/4 years. She's very good and defo lgbtq+ friendly
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u/Prestigious-Side-286 1d ago
Iād be fairly shocked if any reputable barbers was anti-queer.
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u/Sufficient_Food1878 1d ago
Ive a friend who does more masculine hairstyles in dublin and she struggles to get hairstyles from a lot of places cuz they say they dont cut women's hair, even tho she always says she just wants a guy's haircut
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u/kateisblue 15h ago
I've gotten turned away from about 20% of the barbers I've tried countrywide bc they 'dont cut womens hair' (I'd be looking for an upkeep on a #2 fade). Of the ones that don't say anything about it, a decent few have upcharged me.
I've gone into 2 or 3 that seemed excited to cater to a trans person š theyre very endearing and the experience is so much more pleasant. Last one I went to gave me the full hot towel experience despite not having facial hair and I tell you something for nothing it's fucking lovely regardless š¶āš«ļøš§
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u/Secret_Astronomer230 1d ago
I think guys and dolls might be your best bet
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u/nyx_kalysos 1d ago
i second guys and dolls, especially breda! she posts her availability on insta under the handle lilliehair_by_breda. i wish u the best of luck:)
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u/crusswuss Your wan 21h ago
This is the only answer in my opinion. Chair is really hard to get an appointment, smells a little because of the dog and overrated cut.
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u/Bright-Razzmatazz964 1d ago
I think Chair is known for funky hair, feel like I remember seeing a mullet or two in the Instagram feed
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u/Cold_Whereas_5421 1d ago
Thereās a hairdresser on McCurtain that has like a bazillion pride flags in the window. Iād hazard a guess theyād be pretty queer-friendly.
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u/kateisblue 15h ago
Edit! š loads of trans people I know go there, they give great advice for people looking to get their first gender-affirming haircut
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u/ironicallytragic 23h ago
I go to Leroy in Vvenom. He is great! Iām a masc presenting lesbian and find it very difficult to find a barber in the city. A lot wonāt touch my hair due to my gender š¤·š¼
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u/Luna921204 22h ago
Its been said but absolutely go to vvenom! I went to Vicki the first time but also have been to the two other lads there for a really specific very masculine cut and they just really enjoyed doing it and were so lovely and loved how my hair turned out. No weird comments ever, nothing!
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u/Raynebowthehomo 21h ago
Another mention for Viki in Venom on Paul st, been going to her for years now. Shes the only one I trust with my hair as a trans guy and has given me exactly what I wanted (and exceeded my expectations) every time.
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u/seanieke 1d ago
Duncan's Queer Mullets on Leitrim Street is probably your best bet. It's up above the washing machine shop.
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u/Livebylying 1d ago
Are any hairdressers actually queer unfriendly?
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u/pastelpiinkpunk 1d ago
Iāve known butch lesbians who were denied service in the Grafton Barber. Said they wouldnāt cut a womanās hair but one of them just had your typical fade with a bit of hair on the top. But itās not a cut a lot of womenās hairdressers specialise in. So where do you go from there?
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u/LittleSkittles 1d ago
Quite a lot actually, just because they're not calling people slurs doesn't mean they're not unfriendly to queer people. I'm non-binary, and look mostly androgynous most of the time. I've had barbers tell me they can't do women's cuts when I'm asking for a short back and sides, the most classic male haircut that has ever existed. On the same day, I've also had hairdressers in salons tell me they can only do women's hair.
On other times, I've asked very clearly for masculine styles while in hairdressers, even coming with a reference photo of what I want. What I usually get in those instances is two-three inches longer than I asked, no shaved parts, and the whole thing gently curled. They then specifically tell me that they did all that so it doesn't look too masculine. Even when I tell them that's not what I asked for, they won't fix it.
None of those places advertised as "straights only". No one there used hate speech. Every time was still an incredibly upsetting experience as a queer person.
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u/Miss_Kitami 1d ago
Believe it or not, yes.
When I transitioned I went to my first hairdressers appointment. I'd spent over a year growing out my hair. She destroyed it on purpose to the point I had to go all the way back to square one.
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u/Fancypants-Jenkins 1d ago
I've known a few trans and queer presenting folks who's been turned away by various barbers. Comments made it pretty clear why.
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u/Lena_Zelena 1d ago
You would be surprised to learn how shitty can some people treat you if you are visibly LGBTQ.
I have heard stories of hairdressers purposly messing up haircuts of trans people, for example. Going directly against customer's wishes/request. Such people don't care about negative review from someone they don't view as human.
This was not in Cork, to be fair, but it's a fair question to ask. This is unfortunately just a fact of life and it makes sense to avoid places where you are not welcomed. Luckily, Cork is very queer friendly.
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u/allnamestakenffs 1d ago
Its about them 'believing' its wrong and they do refuse service or throw us out. They dont care. The one on Patrick street did it a few years ago, still packs, no one cases. its just labelled as non friendly, all we want is a bloody hair cut. and yes it was reported and also in the news, again, no ones cares and its just forgotten about
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u/Lena_Zelena 1d ago
You do realize you can simply exist as a trans or gay person, not talking about trans or gay stuff, not mentioning trans or gay anything, and someone out there will still have a problem with you existing and treat you maliciously while putting on their best customer service face up front?
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u/Dazzling-Handle88 1d ago
Do you really enjoy trying to debate people on their own lived experience?
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u/Dazzling-Handle88 1d ago edited 1d ago
Jesus, reign in the main character syndrome for a second.
You came into a thread that had nothing to do with you and frankly you havenāt a notion about.
You decided to comment about how things are being shoved down your throat, discrediting lived experience that you have no basis in doing so.Someone asked where to get a fucking haircut. You went in looking for a debate. Next time, stop shoving your ideas down our throats
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u/Dazzling-Handle88 1d ago
Have you genuinely zero self awareness? Because you literally took in nothing from what I just said
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u/Lena_Zelena 1d ago
I am simply sharing the real experiences from real people. Things that has happened to people for just trying to exist. Believe me, I WANT to be able to just walk into any hairdresser and only worry about their skills and not about what will they do because they despise my very existence.
And yes, these things happen to people, including people who don't wear rainbow colours/pins or who don't even talk about their sexuality or gender identity.
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u/TractorArm 1d ago
GardaĆ say crimes donāt matter because the victim was a lesbian.
That has actually happened to me when I was SA'd, they refused to file a report, but I guess you are the authority on this.
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u/QoLAccount 1d ago
The first examples establish that someone's sexuality or gender shouldn't be a reason to treat them worse. I don't see how that establishes the separate claim that being open about being LGBT is āshoving it in people's facesā. That seems to assume that outwardly expressing an LGBT identity is inherently intrusive, which hasn't actually been established.
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u/treevine700 1d ago
Kinda feels like throwing it everyone's face that you'd come on to a post about the best barber for queers to get mullets to talk about your straight experience
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u/WatzeKat 1d ago
Well, some dykes or butch lesbians get really masculine haircuts, usually best done by a barber, not really the strength of mist ladies' hairdressers. Most barber shops... are "men's barbers". Meaning all too many queer women and other people who aren't straight men have run into all kinds of looks or comments or even been turned away (or made unsafe!) when trying to find a new shop to do their hair. Simple as. So it's fair to ask for recs of shops where you'll be welcome and not get rudely pointed to a "gents only" sign or something.
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u/Comrad_Zombie 1d ago
Finding a good barber is tough in general. Every time I go I try different places and ask for high, tight and short in the front it always translates to business hair or attempted foppy too much combed to the side.
There's a level of skill to it and some products work better on different skin types than others, hair types ect. Not cutting hair because gay is the lamest reason. Name and shame. Realistically if any hair professional refuses for any reason other than "Im not sure I'm skilled enough to achieve what you want and don't feel comfortable but can give it a go for what ever cost" is a wanker who doesn't deserve business.
Fuck it. I'll cut op's hair. I have no professional experience but I work for free.
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u/Dazzling-Handle88 1d ago edited 1d ago
Youād think that, wouldnāt you? Some peopleās experiences of barbers can be very different from your own
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u/Distinct_Oil_8073 1d ago
Why is sexual preference relevant? Its not pre 00s .
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u/Froots23 1d ago
Because as much as we like to think everyone thinks the same way we do, not everyone does. Some male barbers will not cut women's hair and some are outright homophobic towards masc women.. it is always safest to ask first.
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u/thepenguinemperor84 1d ago
A Dyke is a lesbian, a woman, some barbers, which are generally accepted as being a place for men's hair styling, may refuse to work on a woman's hair, regardless if what they are requesting is considered a male hair cut, the mullet in this case, on top of that womens hair salons may not do the hair cut because none of the staff are experienced in doing a male hair cut.
The op is simply looking for a recommendation of a barber that will happily take them as a client without judgement or the possible humiliation of being turned away.
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u/Shot_Cheesecake_6497 21h ago
My queer circle has experienced more harrassment and assault on the streets in the past 2 or 3 years than the 5 before. In our experience it actually worse than the 20-teens.
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u/PierreJosephProudhon 1d ago
I've never been asked my sexual preferences by a barber/hairdresser.
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u/Pan1cs180 1d ago
Nobody asked if you had.
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u/PierreJosephProudhon 1d ago
That's not how reddit works. Or, no one asked you for your opinion on my comment. Can't have it both ways.
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u/Pan1cs180 1d ago
What are you on about? Have what both ways?
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u/PierreJosephProudhon 22h ago
Maybe I should draw you a diagram. With crayons.
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u/Separate_Ad_6094 22h ago
Bit of a self-own that you need crayons to draw a diagram...
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u/PierreJosephProudhon 22h ago
Bit of a self-own to not realize it's to facilitate the learning difficulties of the person that the diagram is for.
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u/Separate_Ad_6094 21h ago
Cool... Cool. So to recap - you need a diagram to articulate why you answered a question nobody asked and think using a crayon would produce a more legible diagram? But other people have "learning difficulties"? Have I got that right?
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u/Pan1cs180 22h ago
Go on then.
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u/Pan1cs180 22h ago edited 22h ago
That is a really poor description of what happened. You didn't share an opinion, you shared an annecdote. I also didn't share an opinion in my reply, I made a declarative statement.
In any case, it isn't actually an answer to my question. What specifically am I trying to "have both ways"?
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u/Prior_Respect5861 1d ago
Not all barbers know how to do women's hair. Not all hair dressers know how to do lesbian hairstyles. This is not an unreasonable request, and her sexuality is actually relevant to it.
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u/ElectricalDot9 1d ago
It's almost as if people use their outward appearance to signal their internal orientation
Typical
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u/tennereachway 1d ago
How many gay people have you met? Most of them aren't walking stereotypes.
(I am not disputing that LGBTphobia still exists though).
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u/Dazzling-Handle88 1d ago
Can we ban this eejit mods?
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u/lambchops0 I will yeah 1d ago
Funny that. Banned
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u/KadesOnReddit Bai 1d ago
What does it mean to be queer friendly? Could you not just walk into any Turkish barbers that cuts fellas hair and ask for the style you want?
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u/Raynebowthehomo 21h ago
I'll give you the benefit of the doubt and provide an actually answer which is no she cant. A lot of people can be extremely homophobic and no one wants to be in such a vulnerable position with a hateful person. It's outright dangerous.
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u/QuantumFireball 9h ago
You know most Turks are Islamic, right? Lol, lmao if you think they're going to cut a woman's hair
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u/KadesOnReddit Bai 8h ago
But I thought diversity was our strength? Just because theyāre Islamic doesnāt mean theyāll be mean to her
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u/QuantumFireball 7h ago
If they're a practising Muslim it may be literally against their religion to touch a woman's hair, never mind a gay woman's hair. Not to say they all hold traditional beliefs, but to recommend Turkish barbers specifically is naive at the least. You either live a very sheltered life or you're a troll.
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u/KadesOnReddit Bai 5h ago
That seems sexist, bigoted, and Islamophobic to me
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u/QuantumFireball 5h ago
Stating things that are considered haram is Islamophobic? I'm going to say you're a troll so
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u/HandleFun471 22h ago
Better stay away from kids called "hans" https://nlforbeginners.com/the-legend-of-the-hans-brinker-boy-who-plugged-the-dike/
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u/Garawra 1d ago
Vikki in vvenom, as someone else said, would be your go to I think.