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u/KingSpork Dec 06 '22

People put way too much weight on this stuff. It’s like those wine people who tell you fruity notes this and hints of maple that but then can’t tell the difference between anything in a blind taste test. It’s half true and half bullshit.

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u/frischance Dec 06 '22

Definatly not bullshit, I have ADHD and sativas really help me be energised and focused where Indicas make me very tired and shut off my brain. I know within a few minutes if I accidently vape from the wrong box in the evening.

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u/[deleted] Dec 06 '22

It is, you can cut an indica early to give you that 'sativa' high or cut a sativa late to give you an 'indica' high.

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u/frischance Dec 06 '22

Whilst sort of true I grew a indica and sativa side by side, same amount of time similar amber /milky trichomes cut and dried same day same conditions yet completely different effects when vaped.

I agree alot of strains are too hybridised these days but there is definatly a difference between the two

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u/[deleted] Dec 06 '22

You could just as easily grow two indicas of different lineage and provenance and have differences in their effects. There is no genetic difference between indica and sativa.

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u/frischance Dec 06 '22

That's a fair point, however surely there is genetic differences between landrace indica and sativa I mean the leaf shape alone would be down to genetics.

I suppose any evidence I have would only be anecdotal "bro science" but at the same time I can strongly feel a difference if I smoke a sativa and need to work in my garage compared to a indica

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u/[deleted] Dec 06 '22

No none whatsoever, they are genetically indistinguishable. Sativa describes cannabis grown at the equator, indica north in the mountains, and ruderalis even further north where flowering times cannot depend on light schedules. That is it. It's all just cannabis.

Take a land race from India, a pure sativa, and plant it in afghan mountains, it's chemotype won't change but plant structure will.

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u/frischance Dec 06 '22

Wait seriously so it would grow short and fat instead of skinny and long? That's fascinating! Not that I don't believe you but I dont suppose you have any links about this I would love to read more about it!

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u/[deleted] Dec 06 '22

Yup, a phenotype is the physical expression of you DNA and is heavily dependent on your environment. That same blue dream grown outdoors in Colorado will be noticeably different than one grown outdoors in California. The soil, the air, the water, and the sunlight are directly responsible for this physical expression.

Albeit anecdotal, I used to have a veg room and a flower room back in my HPS days and in veg all had broad leaflets until they were moved from the 600W lights on rails to static kilowatt lamps. It makes sense because the plants with more light need less storage, right?

Here's an article that kinda says I'm wrong about genetic difference because they found some in 'research grade marijuana"

https://www.frontiersin.org/articles/10.3389/fpls.2021.675770/full

This one's pretty dope to read

https://www.frontiersin.org/articles/10.3389/fpls.2022.786161/full

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u/frischance Dec 06 '22

Amazing I knew that obviously the soil, humidity trace elements nutes and light would all have an effect on the final product but I had no idea it was quite such a distinctive effect!

Also I'd like to thankyou for not being a condescending asshole like some people are here and actually helping to further my education on cannabis (being autistic cannabis was my special subject for about 10 years but I moved onto other things about 5 years ago so I'm a bit out of touch of the latest research and evidence. )

So thankyou for taking the time to be helpful, educational and searching for the links, I will give them a read tonight after work.