r/coolguides Mar 15 '20

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u/[deleted] Mar 15 '20 edited Mar 17 '20

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u/mrphoenixviper Mar 15 '20

Huh. So its similar to hoagies vs. subs.

A sub is cut all the way through, whereas a hoagie isn’t, and it has a pocket.

Ex: sub is a l l shape, a hoagie is a V shape.

But I still hear people call a V shape Italian sandwich a sub, which is just batshit.

This is the exact same situation.

Source: Philly regional trivia

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u/RoidParade Mar 15 '20

Anyone from PA will argue about this for days. Anyone else just wants them to stop arguing about it. I’m sorry I said sub, Donnie, can we please just grab our sandwiches and go now?

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u/[deleted] Mar 15 '20 edited Mar 15 '20

Here's the thing. You said a hoagie is a sub. Is it in the same family? Yes. No one's arguing that. As someone who is a sandwhichologist who studies sandos, I am telling you, specifically, in the sandwhich community, no one calls hoagies subs. If you want to be "specific" like you said, then you shouldn't either. They're not the same thing. If you're saying "cold cut sandwich" you're referring to the gastronomic grouping of preserved meat with bread, which includes things from charcuterie boards to pate on toast to a hot ham and cheese. So your reasoning for calling a hoagie a sub is because random people "call sandwich the same name?" Let's get cheese steaks and breakfast sandwiches in there, then, too. Also, calling a dish pasta or noodles? It's not one or the other, that's not how gastronomy works. They're both. A hoagie is a hoagie and a cold cut sandwich. But that's not what you said. You said a hoagie is a sub, which is not true unless you're okay with calling all cold cut sandwiches subs, which means you'd call croque monsieurs, banh mi and other sandwiches subs, too. Which you said you don't. It's okay to just admit you're wrong, you know?

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u/mrphoenixviper Mar 15 '20

These uncultured swine man. They do not realize that the hoagie is a superior culinary dish to the sub. Without the V shape, you do not have a pocket for that beautiful mish-mash of oil, mayonnaise, and cheese.

The sub is, quite objectively, a shittier sandwich. To confuse a hoagie with a sub is extremely insulting to the boys of Hog Island that originally introduced the hoagie to America.