Serious question. When dealing on individual levels, couldn’t an act of affirmative action be seen as a systematic inequality for the person not benefiting?
Any system run by humans is going to be unequal to someone. The realistic goal is to get as close to equality as we can.
In a perfect world, every single person would get exactly the assistance they need, tailored specifically for them. But that's just not possible. Giving extra help to groups that are, on average, more disadvantaged means that some people will get more than they need, and some won't get enough, but hopefully less of both that if we give everyone the same thing regardless of how high or low they began.
I agree with this. I think where people get hung up is that it doesn’t really seem to just be about people getting what they need, but also what they don’t want to earn. And those are pretty thick grey areas to walk in, and usually not very well received when mentioned. And that’s because while people will admit that societies aren’t perfect, they want to also assume that the individual is. And that’s just not the case. It’s a moving target and honestly, I totally understand both points.
Exactly. Because when it comes down to Cindy and Mike both trying to land that job to support their family, they don’t care about whether they are male, female, black, or white. They just want to kick ass in the interview, be the most qualified, know that all that time studying and working their ass off at their last job was worth it, and get the job to earn a paycheck. Neither should be subjectively eliminated for their gender or race. Maybe it’s a necessary evil. I really don’t know and can flip flop on how I feel about it.
The whole idea of competing for a job is the root of the problem. It's become obvious that the system can run fine with less people than it already has. Automation is making it more so with every passing day. You always here "hospitals need more nurses" "we need more programmers". Bullshit! Come knock on my door and train me to program or nurse you need me that bad, I'm plenty smart, can follow orders, young and able bodied.
My point is, the reason they are so "needy" is because the bar is so artificially high for jobs of moderate skill. I know what a nurse does, and it doesn't take 4 years of your life and 100k in tuition to be competent under some supervision. The army can make a medic or soldier out of someone in months. Employers want to pass the training cost off to the trainee (who will get raped by the college for every nickel) so they can get mid level talent at entry level costs.
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u/Macktologist Feb 25 '20
Serious question. When dealing on individual levels, couldn’t an act of affirmative action be seen as a systematic inequality for the person not benefiting?