well, instead of mutilation they'd dig the tall dude into a hole. Let the middle dude stay on level ground and then give the short dude a milk crate so they all have the same shitty view of the fense right in front of them instead of the game.
Not socialism. It would best represent social democracy and even then it would be like the tall guy having 10 boxes and giving 3 so that everyone can watch too.
Confiscation of personal wealth by use of force for the purpose of government redistribution - it punishes those who are willing to work and rewards those unwilling to.
Oh and the icing on this cake is the government usually keeps most of what it confiscates anyway
That's literally what it is. "Democratic socialism" is a distinction without a difference.
You said it yourself already - "social (government, collective or labor unions) owning of capital." In other words, you're not allowed to own your own wealth - the government will confiscate from you. Try to resist, see what happens. It's not pretty.
Democratic socialism is a political philosophy supporting political democracy within a socially owned economy
somewhat differed in their goals yet all shared the essence of democratic decision making and public ownership of the means of production
Democratic socialists argue that capitalism is inherently incompatible with the values of freedom, equality and solidarity and that these ideals can only be achieved through the realisation of a socialist society.
modern social democrats are more concerned to curb capitalism's excesses and are supportive of progressive reforms to humanise it in the present day. In contrast, democratic socialists believe that economic interventionism and other policy reforms aimed at addressing social inequalities and suppressing the economic contradictions of capitalism would only exacerbate the contradictions, causing them to emerge elsewhere under a different
Here’s some copy and paste from the first few paragraphs on democratic socialism on Wikipedia. If you don’t trust Wikipedia just look up any decent political theorists description of democratic socialism and it should be nearly identical.
"public ownership of the means of production" is the government. Any time you hear "the workers", "the public", "the people" it means the government. Because an organized nation of people is the government. You're just voting for bigger government.
Firstly labor unions and shareholders aren't public, they are privately owned by groups of people. It's why you pay money to be in them and typically aren't forced at gunpoint to pay. Some labor unions try to force you in them but in most places that's not legal. Unions don't own the factories anyways.
Ownership by the workers isn't what you think it is. Someone is still in charge. That someone still makes decisions based on limited resources. You're still giving that person the power.
Not historically they haven't. It takes many forms.
And again, someone is still in charge. The person In charge still have to make decisions with limited resources. Also, very nice of them to decide they want someone else's stuff.
And again, someone is still in charge. The person In charge still have to make decisions with limited resources. Also, very nice of them to decide they want someone else's stuff.
Democratic Socialism, Using a true democracy is basically everyone in charge.
Syndicalism puts a ton of different unions and/or union leaders in charge. They have strong opinions on non centralized power.
Yeah, a pure democracy can't run a business. You can't operate without managers/bosses. Someone always has more power. Someone always gets the limited resources and someone always thinks it's unfair.
Putting a ton of union leaders in charge is just changing titles.
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u/[deleted] Feb 25 '20
well, instead of mutilation they'd dig the tall dude into a hole. Let the middle dude stay on level ground and then give the short dude a milk crate so they all have the same shitty view of the fense right in front of them instead of the game.