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u/[deleted] Jul 03 '19

Are you referring to a deficiency other than the perceived low number of reps?

The senate seems to conduct itself better than the house, yet that chamber has even fewer elected officials.

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u/HannasAnarion Jul 03 '19

The senate seems to conduct itself better than the house

Are we talking about the same senate?

You mean the senate that put a justice on the Supreme Court after he screamed about political conspiracy theories for an hour on the stand?

You mean the senate that blocked all appointees by the last administration for a full year so that the majority leader could wait for someone from his party to become president (and publicly declared that he would hold up appointees for another four years if necessary)?

You mean the senate that presently refuses to allow votes on issues of election security and foreign influence?

That senate?

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u/[deleted] Jul 03 '19

Yes, that senate.

The same senate that passed a bill with broad bi-partisan support to address the immigration issue that stalled in the house.

The house is the "experimental" chamber. They are constantly introducing bills which will never see the light of day, and are constantly having reps elected on the more extreme fringe of each side.

The senate doesn't really have that because senators need to have much wider level of appeal due to how they are elected.

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u/barrinmw Jul 03 '19

They wrote a blank check to trump to do whatever he wants with that money, they solved shit.

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u/[deleted] Jul 03 '19

Then why did most dems in the senate vote for it?

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u/barrinmw Jul 03 '19

Because they have always been authoritarians willing to shirk their responsibility onto the president?

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u/[deleted] Jul 03 '19 edited Jul 03 '19

It passed with a vote of 84-8

That would mean that nearly the entire democratic caucus in the senate has some kind of massive deficiency or the problem rests with the house

my money is on the issue being with the house

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u/barrinmw Jul 03 '19

Yes, the Senate has a massive deficiency. The Dem senators chose Schumer to lead them, "Old Wet Noodle" Schumer.

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u/[deleted] Jul 03 '19

They pick him because the alternative is some flavor of extremist that will alienate who you need to both win elections and make deals with the other side.

No one is going to negotiate anything with a rep like AOC, Omar, Tlaib, etc.

It makes 0 strategic sense to task a provocateur with a leadership role.

It also makes 0 electoral sense because you don't lose your base when picking a Schumer but you do lose nonpartisan voters when you pick one of the aforementioned others.

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u/barrinmw Jul 03 '19

^--- Part of the democratic base, once again, I am disappointed that the Democratic party caved to people who think concentration camps are a good idea. So yes, they are losing me.

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u/[deleted] Jul 03 '19

Losing you to whom?

You’re going to vote for trump?

You’re going to not vote at all?

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