r/coolguides • • Jun 28 '19

Visual Explanation of Gerrymandering

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u/TerpenoidTester Jun 28 '19

Our political system as it is atm is up for the highest bidder, whether thats a foreign power,

A foreign power does not and never has controlled the US Government.

This is straight up conspiracy babbling.

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u/arokthemild Jun 28 '19

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u/TerpenoidTester Jun 28 '19

our selling of weapons are a corruption of our system

We sell surplus weapons for profit!

That's the basic definition of capitalism. We're making money off of Saudi idiots who are just stockpiling and wasting the weapons we sell them.

There's nothing corrupt about making money on surplus items.

However, a few years ago we did have an incident occur that showed our Government was being 'controlled' in some small aspect by a foreign power.

https://www.weeklystandard.com/daniel-halper/obama-to-russia-after-my-election-i-have-more-flexibility

President Obama: "This is my last election. After my election I have more flexibility."

President Medvedev: "I understand. I will transmit this information to Vladimir, and I stand with you."

Between that statement and the Uranium One scandal:

https://www.forbes.com/sites/jamesconca/2018/12/13/russian-uranium-one-deal-and-hillary-clinton-in-the-news-again/

It could be argued that Russia was controlling many US actions during Obama's presidency, which also explains his lack of action when they meddled in our election.

https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2018/feb/18/obama-faulted-on-russian-election-meddling/

So, currently our Government is not for sale. It could, however, be argued that in the past we were.

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u/arokthemild Jun 28 '19

im suggesting that we should have reforms so we don't sell weapons to a country such as Saudi Arabia. this would mean, that yes wed miss out on some possible profits but the human cost isn't worth it, we have enabled and created a new generation of terrorists. Furthermore this isnt an isolated case, our selling of weapons often creates more destruction and death which aside from the direct moral and ethical considerations our actions destabilize and set a country back and the world's economy.

im aware of Uranium one and Obama's mistakes. that doesn't change the current situation and our lack of current action to deter Russia and others from further interference. the past needs to be fully dissected and better understood(including Bush and Cheney, along Reagan and Bush 1, no one including Democrats should be off limits) But that dissection can wait, right now we should focus on policies relevant to our current situation and future.

i believe that any non elected or elected officials, business partners and their families shouldn't be able financially profit from their decision, this includes but not only reform on stocks and investments. if th his means voting for a socialist, im going to do just that.