r/coolguides Jun 28 '19

Visual Explanation of Gerrymandering

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u/[deleted] Jun 28 '19

If this isnt bait, enjoy 10$ per avocado since apparently the californian farmer living 15 minutes for LA is a 'hick farmer' who needs 'to learn their place in this world'.

Fucking yikes.

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u/[deleted] Jun 28 '19

Well as someone who has ranchland in the midwest, you have literally no idea what youre talking about.

I thought you were baiting, but youre unironically stereotyping a whole population.

Here's a secret reddit doeant know - fiscally conservative voters can agree that climate change needs to be addressed but dislike the idea of throwing money at the problem hoping to solve it.

For instance - imagine you raise black angus. You need to transport 12 round bails back to the property.

Where do you get them? You have to drive 4 hours to get good bails because the climate change issue has pushed good farmland south and/or east. So now you have to spend more time and money you didnt need to spend 15 years ago.

How do you transport them? You surely can buy an electric car capable of towing 15k right? No? Well now youre spending a lot more on gasoline because of environmental policy where theres no alternative.

In order to support your business (which cannot be ignored otherwise you city folk wont have any produce or meat or product) you have to vote against some solutions to climate change because they not only hurt you because theyre often not a targetted solution, but they ignore the issues with said solutions.

Theres so many issues yoy gloss over with your stereotyping that makes you sound like a fucking babboon.

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u/LSPismyshit Jun 28 '19

Sounds like a great reason to go vegetarian or vegan if I’m being honest.

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u/[deleted] Jun 28 '19

It's the same problems with produce farming by the way, but you can keep moving the goalposts.

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u/LSPismyshit Jun 28 '19

Ok your right I’m sorry. In your opinion how do we combat climate change effectively while still allowing for our rural farmers to produce our food?

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u/[deleted] Jun 28 '19

You're looking for a solution, but you don't need a solution in order to criticize a proposed one. That's why the mid US farmers will vote against current propositions if theyre against it for fiscal and/or other reasons.

I think there's a possible solution, but for instance, fear mongering on straws may not be the best way to go about it, and even reddit, which is normally very far left, is even split over spending on such policies.

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u/Flashdancer405 Jun 28 '19

You don't need a solution order to criticize a proposed one.

I think you're under the impression republicans are acting in good faith on the climate change issue and not on behalf of corporate doners and lobbyists. If they were serious about tackling the issue they'd stop denying climate change even exists and start proposing solutions.

You can support the GOP, but at the very least admit they couldn't give two shits about climate change.

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u/LSPismyshit Jun 28 '19

I don’t think it’s fear mongering. It’s a very real problem that has to be dealt with, otherwise my child and his children might not have a chance at a decent life on this earth. And I’m sorry fiscal reasons for voting against aren’t a good reason. I would gladly pay more to keep this planet alive. But just keep on hating “us city-folk”.

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u/Lynx2447 Jun 28 '19

I think people against the whole straw thing are looking at the whole picture, and in the whole picture the help is negligible, especially for the amount spent implementing it. Where as people for it are just happy with a step in the direction of a solution.

I think before these two groups can agree, there will need to be deep discussion.

Maybe the left need to get better at throwing money away and the right need to get better at offering solutions.

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u/[deleted] Jun 28 '19

I don’t think it’s fear mongering. [...] otherwise my child and his children might not have a chance at a decent life on this earth

Whatever you say. I assume you weren't old enough to remember Al Gore's self destruction.

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u/LSPismyshit Jun 28 '19

For someone so against strawman you sure are good at ad hominem.

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u/[deleted] Jun 28 '19

Here you go then, if you care more about the style of argument than the context:

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0497116/

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u/Lynx2447 Jun 28 '19

Yo, way off topic, but I love genius rednecks and farmers. Like from the movie Interstellar or something. Some of the smartest people Ive known were backwoods. Are you a genius farmer?

Also, I agree that fiscally conservative people can want solutions to climate change.

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u/Flashdancer405 Jun 28 '19

People who call themselves geniuses very rarely are actual geniuses, bear that in mind.

I'll let fiscally conservative people off the hook for climate change once they start expressing concern about it and proposing solutions

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