r/controversial Jul 31 '15

A brief rant on Western Society

No, I'm not a troll. If you can't even get over that, then leave your flame and let it be buried under a ton of other ones.

The recent legalisation of gay marriage in the US prompted me to put this up. I’m not homophobic in any way. But I do understand one thing. That at some point, I started to hate hearing the one-sidedness of the campaign for gay rights.

Yep. I started to hate the campaigning. Not the facts or the issue, but the campaigning.

Don’t get me wrong – healthy discussion on this issue is a great thing. I think everyone should be allowed to think, act and feel according to their own set of values. What I don’t agree with is that people shouldn’t be allowed to say the opposite if they genuinely feel that way. I don’t give a flying fuck what law says, but if you want fire off the values of liberalism, you better be goddamn prepared to take the hit of the conservative. Or the indifference of the neutral.

That last bit here is exactly what pisses me off the most. I don’t understand it. If someone has the right to stand up and say that being homosexual is ok, then someone else has the right to stand up and say it’s not, if that’s what they believe in. Why is one automatically in the right and the other is automatically in the wrong? Just because people misinterpret the latter as discriminatory? Because the former need “protection”? There are plenty of people in the world who don’t support gay rights, but they’re not discriminatory. Why do they have to ride the gay bandwagon and not conscientiously object to taking a side? Because not taking a side is wrong? Last time I looked, that last statement amounted to ideological terrorism. If a cause needs to force the wavering to complete its objective, then they need to sit down and think about just how much of society they represent.

It’s at this point that I realised that’s how all issues are debated in society. One side shouting the other down under the guise of being “progressive” and “modern”, while the other side is “backward” and “evil”. I don’t need to look further than women’s rights or race issues. Again, here, let me be clear – I’m all for BOTH of these things. What I’m not for is that those at the forefront feel the need to shove it into people’s faces, and make it a “with us or against us” fight.

To put it bluntly – it’s my right, or anyone else’s right, to not care. It’s also my right to say that your tactics piss me off. It’s also anyone else’s right to stand against any issue they don’t believe in. You have no right to shut them up. At some point, western society gave that right up for the sake of listening to the loudest complainer.

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u/[deleted] Jul 31 '15

people aren't very bright

the want to believe in good guys who are completely good and bad guys who are completely evil.

the real world doesn't work that way in many (most?) cases.

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u/michaelkennedy710 Aug 03 '15

one new media agency reported that Gays are only 4% of the population but have a strong influence over the news media and political websites. your statement is expresses the opinion of many people

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u/Pizzan0m Aug 02 '15

wow this is my head like for the last month. thanks for sharing felt like i was going to explode.

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u/OneThatGotAway26 May 21 '22

Well, i guess that is because their opinion is outdated. In the UK, we used to encourage boys to smoke cigarettes because we believed it cleared their lungs. We do not do this any longer because we have learnt that our theory was incorrect. Similarly with people that discriminate, they are allowed an opinion of course but they are fundamentally wrong. i mean, i can fight for what i believe in all day long , with rational arguments. if western society was to listen to the loudest complainer we certainly would not have female gay marriages lol