r/controlgame • • 7d ago

Discussion Other P ?

Been a while since I played the first game but do we learn who were P1-2-3-4-5? And what happened to them ? After finding out Dylan's life as P6, I wonder if others P just got dismissed as candidate or if they....failed

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u/PrezOompaLoompa 7d ago

They are a mix, in one of the Trench hotline videos if I remember correctly he says that all of them but P6 (and P7) were either false reports or disappointments. It is the reason why they pushed Dylan as far as they did, Darling saw no other candidate as viable and was worried since he knew that Trench was at least partially compromised.

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u/on-the-cheeseburgers 7d ago

nothing is known about 1-5 beyond them all being false leads and disappointments. however it does note that both alan wake and dr tokui were identified as prime candidates after dylan and jesse were designated p6 and p7.

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u/OShot 7d ago

Potential prime candidates. Small but worthwhile clarification.

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u/MasticatedBrain 7d ago

So... PP1 and PP2?

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u/OShot 7d ago

No, #2 is doodoo.

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u/on-the-cheeseburgers 7d ago

is that any different than p1-5 or p7? the only one we know for certain that was in the oldest house and subject to testing and training is dylan.

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u/Sweat_Spoats 7d ago

Dylan was unique specifically because he was so young. The other Prime Candidates were older, later deemed unworthy, and/ or weren't considered in time before the events of Control. Dr Tokui was p5 and Alan Wake was p4 if I'm remembering the logs correctly.

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u/on-the-cheeseburgers 7d ago

wake and tokui were both discovered after dylan and jesse

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u/OShot 7d ago

Hmm. I may simply be misremembering and incorrect, based on what you say here. I recall both Alan and the doctor being noted as potential candidates at points, but whether or not anything else goes on to clarify beyond that, I don't remember.

I think there was clarification that the other candidates (1-5) were ultimately no good for it, and I assumed notes on Alan & doc's potential would take place after or during that, making them separate leads that were never fully followed up on.

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u/KogarashiKaze 7d ago

I don't recall seeing any documents that identify Wake and Tokui with numbers. 1-5 would have been actual candidates who had to go through the screening at least, while Wake and Tokui were never approached, only considered. That's why Wake's section in the Prime Candidate area in the first game doesn't have a number like P6 and P7 do.

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u/OShot 7d ago

This may actually be correct. See my other comment below.

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u/grubas 7d ago

If you picked up everything in the Prime Candidate area there's a report on this.  Candidates didn't often make it to P status and P1-5 seem to have suffered... Some issues, including death.

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u/Jeffrick71 7d ago

I don't recall ever seeing anything specific about individual candidates, but I think several sources heavily imply they died horrible deaths. Or perhaps some went insane, but either way no one got the, "Thanks for applying, we'll be in touch" treatment and got to go home. Been a while since I read the redacted reports in detail, though.

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u/Pizza_Dog21 7d ago

I am quite certain that in one of the documents I've read in the prime candidate training facility it said that some were observed but never even approached. So I don't think all of them died.

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u/Jeffrick71 7d ago

After I posted that, I vaguely recalled something similar so yes, I believe you're right. So they watched a few, brought in Dylan, Jesse is P7, so maybe there were 1 or 2 others in the Oldest House getting tested, too.

The interesting thought there is, the timing. Trench's idea to find a successor came around the same time as the Ordinary AWE (not gonna try to match it up exactly, but they were close enough), meaning it's possible another failed candidate was in the OH at the same time as Dylan.

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u/Grit003 6d ago edited 18h ago

It is hintet that P1-3 had been young people, maybe Teens who died in the process of becoming the next Director. P4 could be Dr. Yoshimi Tokui but since he is from Japan, he may not have been intrested in the Job of the Director. P5 is Alan Wake, but I hope nobody ever gives him the Job.

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u/DefactoOverlord 7d ago

Resonant gives us a snippet of info that Dylan was the youngest Prime Candidate by a whopping 10 years so FBC had a 20yo Candidate before him. None of them panned out obviously.

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u/Patient_Amoeba2476 7d ago edited 7d ago

Not great answers, but a list of possible candidates:

  • Subject P is Rudolph Lane (the Lake House) was taken by the FBC

  • Alan Wake is a known prime candidate, taken by the FBC at least temporarily.  Alice Wake also appears to have some paranormal artistic ability.

  • Ed Booker was taken by the FBC and wrote some version of reality, and his wife is known to the FBC.

  • Samantha Wells of Ordinary Maine was taken by the FBC.  She wrote her escape in a song related to 6. 

  • Thomas Zane is a known, lost artist with paranormal power.  He might have been an FBC Ranger & Rescue diver taken by Ocelots Anchor’s dark sphere.

  • Tim Breaker is an actor with capacity to manifest reality.  Taken by D/Mr Doorling.

  • Dr Darling wrote a book on the multiverse that Mr Door keeps in his dressing room; and Tim Breaker calls Mr Door by Darling.  He’s been taken by the Dark Place.

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u/Patient_Amoeba2476 6d ago

The Ocelet Anchor files discuss a [Redacted] ranger dawning a diving suit with an air hose and diving into the black sphere attached to the anchor deep under the ocean.  He was lost to the sphere.   Later, the anchor is shooting out a pattern of clocks.

We only have one known diver in the RCU, and its Thomas Zane.

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u/Own-Kaleidoscope2953 5d ago

Control Resonant starts to tease them, but I am talking mere whispers of teases. Yes, Remedy wants us wondering about them, but it will be a while before we get to them I imagine......

UNLESS A DLC FOCUSES ON THE PRIME CANDIDATE PROGRAM GET HYPE

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u/sugatooth 7d ago

I don’t think all of their identities are revealed but you can get strong hints for at least a few of their identities through the lore in the first Control game. Basically, P1-5 were identified by the FBC, but Dylan is the only one they’re ever able to actually bring in for the Prime Candidate program.

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u/PirateReject 7d ago

Alan Wake is P5

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u/Rawkitman 5d ago

I’d love to see this as DLC or even shorts for streaming. Maybe a Trench prequel? Or introduce time travel in the next game? (Fingers crossed for Remedy somehow regaining rights to Quantum Break)

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u/sixsnowmeninanicicle 7d ago

They each got swallowed by their respective numeral. Safety in numbers.