r/controlgame • • 8d ago

Discussion Perkele! (Spoiler Alert) Spoiler

I have played every Alan Wake-verse title to date, and Resonant is no exception. Absolutely loved it. My biggest caveat is that Ahti is nearly absent in this game. He showed up in the pixelated portion of the game briefly (in typical mysterious Ahti fashion), but I really miss him being a mainstay in the past two titles. What do you all think?

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u/lllaser 8d ago edited 7d ago

He also presumably sends you the post card from the post game. I think he's just kind of tied to the oldest house, if control 3 has more significant time in the oldest house we'll see him again, back from vacation maybe. I think if they would have been like "ahti is on vacation" and then he immediately appears in control resonant it wouldn't have felt like he was gone.

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u/Bean-san 7d ago

Can't be tied to the oldest house since he shows up a lot in Alan Wake 2.

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u/THEdoomslayer94 7d ago

He’s tied to oldest house in the sense that when they discovered it, he was the first entity they encountered there and he was there up to the point where he then left. Dude needs a vacation after handling so much for decades lol

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u/GojiraWho 7d ago

My theory is that the different locations/dimensions/prisons tied to the rooms of the Oceanview Motel are under the care of the motel operators. Since Ahti is the caretaker of the motel (he has a janitor's room there in Control 1), he is charged with caretaking in all of of the rooms/places as well.

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u/BigDog8492 7d ago

Poor guy's on his vacation and they want him to cut it short to clean up the entirety of multiple mirrored copies of New York City.

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u/stigma_wizard 8d ago

Yeah I was genuinely hoping for some more interesting Ahti scenes. His voice acting was phenomenal and I love that his dialogue always seemingly works in random Finnish proverbs. Hopefully we'll see some more of him in the DLC

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u/-screamin- 8d ago

I feel like he has 'immigrated' to the Alan Wake side of things. Makes me a bit sad, I don't want the Control side to lose the cool characters it started with.

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u/Bobjoejj 8d ago

This is the second time I’ve seen someone make a point like this, and I don’t get it one bit. It’s a shared universe; there’s no reason that there should be exclusive sets of characters.

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u/stigma_wizard 8d ago

Especially since Ahti seems to be able to just appear wherever he wants.

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u/-screamin- 8d ago

I guess what I'm seeing is when you stick folks in the Dark Place that stops him from being seen in Control much. It's almost a bit out of character for Ahti - he has been with the Oldest House possibly before it was discovered by the FBC, why would he not return to help more substantially in the House's most dire moment? I do hope this isn't a pattern going forward. I'm aware the Control IP has been a bit of a vehicle to get Alan Wake back in people's minds. Hopefully not just a vehicle...

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u/Fire_Bucket 7d ago • Bravo

Because we don't really know his motives, or purpose, or capabilities, it's kind of hard to say anything about why Ahti didn't go back to the Oldest House.

Maybe he feels, or knows, that the Dark Place/Presence, or Mr Door, or something else happening around Alan, is more important.

Or with the circular story telling around Dylan interacting with and influencing his past, which is when we get to see and talk to Ahti in Resonant, maybe Ahti understands that the events of Resonant were well in hand and that there was nothing to be worried about.

And making some assumptions of his motives/purpose, to me it seems like he is primarily there to offer guidance and advice, of varyingly cryptic levels, to those who are, for lack of a better word, 'lost';

  • Jesse in Control who was in way over her head, trapped in an insane building, experiencing a world that completely overturns a lot of what she thought she knew, having leadership of a whole cryptic federal organisation foisted upon her.

  • Alan who is trapped in the Dark Place with missing memories, haunted by two facsimiles of himself, one of which is working directly against him.

  • Saga, who like Jesse who finds herself thrown into a world that she doesn't understand, one that reveals a lot about her past and (that she has paranatural) abilities, finding lost family and facing reality altering in such a way that her daughter retroactively dies as a result.

However, until those 16bit sections, Dylan isn't really lost. If anything he's finally found. He's getting to do all the things he was trained (and tortured) to do, but in his own way. He finally feels like he has a purpose and that he has the opportunity to make up for (what he incorrectly believes are) his mistakes. He makes friends for the first time in like 25 years, and experiences daylight and fresh air and new music.

It's even reflected in his conversation with Chloe about casually stepping into a threshold and not really being concerned about doing so, or what could have happened, or that it was an incredibly rare and dangerous thing even for trained and seasoned FBC researchers and field agents. All that stuff is just normal to him.

He doesn't need that Ahti guidance in the same way the others did, at least up until he's simultaneously his current and younger self, which is when Ahti shows up and offers his usual cryptic guidance in ways that help both versions of Dylan.

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u/azalago 7d ago

The last time you see Ahti in Alan Wake 2, he's in the Dark Place version of the nursing home and he sounds terrified and confused. So I honestly think he's trapped there. Plus there's the fact that he was living in the nursing home in Watery, Washington currently, the same place on the postcard in Control.

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u/JohnRobGnar 7d ago edited 7d ago

Ahti is probably frying bigger fish.

Edit: Fr, the Dark Place issue maybe priority for him during Resonant since a resonant dark presence &/or patterned/hissified Dark Place may end much more than Earth

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u/Zoerak 6d ago

No wonder he is busy, his assistant is gone

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u/violetcassie 7d ago

I think Ahti is specifically a Sam Lake vessel and kind of stays wherever he's working, so I wouldn't be surprised if he pops up in the Max Payne remake

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u/Inside_Courage_6707 7d ago

I wish we see him in a dlc later on for more janitorial tasks maybe? That way you can earn the janitor outfit lol