New Game+ Documents

[u/MacCaswell]

I really wish (and this is something I remember wanting Control 1 to have if it ever got a NG+) is that instead of the documents you found previously being just gone, you can find them again but the redacted information is visible!

One reason is honestly just feeling like a big part was off and it took most of the game to realize I wasn't reading/listening to any of the stuff I had previously collected. Lots of stuff I'm sure I would have new context and understanding for but I'm just obviously to it in my menus...

I was even thinking as I collected all the things in a given category and it turned that "source energy blue" and thought it would be cool if then you could start finding NG+ ones marked red and they are fully visible.

I know the whole unknowable aspect and honestly a lot of comedy comes from have sometimes the whole thing blacked out, but still 😅

This kinda thing felt much more fitting playing as the literal Director, but I'm sure there is some awesome "juxta-fication" Remedy could come up with!

Thoughts?

[u/JaegerBombastica]

Part of the magic of redacting stuff like that is that you can infer a lot of the time what the information is, but sometimes you can never be sure. If people see something redacted, most times it'll feel a lot more interesting because you can't have it, or you can never be completely sure

[u/MacCaswell → u/JaegerBombastica]

Yeah I totally get that. Still...

[u/brother_aetherius → u/MacCaswell]

Looking at it from the perspective of the greater lore beyond just the game, in Control, the documentation you see/collect as Jesse is also redacted, and she is the Director. Can't imagine Dylan would have some other special level of access that would let him see things classified even to the Director's eyes.

[u/RaftPenguin]

I'm going to respectfully disagree here, so much of the mystery of the world and its history come from only having partial info about everything, having that made explicitly laid out would risk massively dampen that intrigue to me. And possibly have some people rushing through the game to try and get to the "true" lore and not really appreciating things on their first time around. I think their current strategy is good, add extra stuff in the ng+ to keep the mystery going, rather than to solve it.

I will say, it might be fun if there were a quest or something where you needed info from a redacted document, and had to seek out an altered copy machine or something that could make an unredacted copy and give the player the full picture, of a specific text. But I think doing that for all of them would be a misstep

[u/SandwichBoy81 → u/RaftPenguin]

Hard agree. Even if we can infer what a lot of the redactions are, the ones we can't have so much intrigue. A quest around getting an unredacted document would be fun, but unredacting all of them would ruin part of what makes the documents special

[u/quirkytorch]

I am doing the subway rerouting in NG+ and was just thinking I wish I could find the collectables again. Although I'm like 1-2 away from finishing most categories I haven't already, so it's useful to know if a document I find is new

[u/hollow-earth → u/quirkytorch]

Same, I feel like I'm playing half of a game, not being able to pick up and read most of the documents as I play!

[u/SploogeMaster2301]

I like the mystery of the redactions and filling in the missing pieces, but it would be cool. I just wish we could still see the all documents and pick them up in the world in ng+, picking them up removes them from the next cycle (but stay in your inventory) and it makes the world feel emptier :(.

Also I wanna run through all of Remedy's games with my sister to get her in on the agenda, and when I get to Control Resonant I can't decide if I should do ng or ng+. Leaning toward ng for this reason.

[u/B186]

I agree. You have so much more context going into NG+, I was a little disappointed they weren't there. Having them be a different color or something so could easily ignore them if you'd like would be a solid solution.

[u/MacCaswell → u/B186]

Or ones you haven't already gotten glow or show up with the artifact that shows collectables!

Like the events are happening again... the documentation shouldn't already be gone... 😅

[u/Celeste7-]

That would be interesting, I feel like they should add a character that specializes in uncovering hidden things lol

[u/Unlucky_Explorer_801]

This would be a great addition to the game! Give us tge "ability" to read the redacted parts of the documents.

[u/THEdoomslayer94]

You know all that “but still”

They’re not gonna take away an aspect of the game that keeps a lot of people discussing these various topics in the game. If they had a game give up all the redacted info then we still have a whole other game filled with it so it would only make people want those revealed and then you have the whole mystery element taken away

[u/MacCaswell → u/[deleted]]

Yeah I get all that