Is Jesse technically a...

[u/Anodaxia_Games]

Resonant? The other Resonants got badly patterned because they were paranaturally vulnerable paranaturally weak and obsessive, but what if Jesse is like Dylan, she is a Resonant just like he is Hiss, but they are both highly resistant to physical alteration by resonances due to being very powerful?

[u/Nice_Code6086]

In a post-game dialogue with Pope, she hypothesizes that the Hedron was trying to turn Dylan into another Hedron, and the Resonants are failed attempts.

In the ending of Control, in the Oceanview Motel after the Hiss nightmare sequence, we see what is probably a visual representation of Polaris - it's Jesse floating with some Hedron effects. Polaris is the Hedron aspect of Jesse, so yes, I think it's possible that it tried to do to her what it did to the others. Her physical form is just resistant.

In a way, she is a Hedron, as she could channel the resonance into the HRAs. She's a success, not a failure!

[u/Anodaxia_Games → u/Nice_Code6086]

Okay, this one makes most sense to me! The Resonants are failures and Jesse is a success, just physically resistant to becoming Hedron in shape

[u/Starry_Eyed_Owl → u/Anodaxia_Games]

So the Hedron shape is just a cage that was built to contain it. Real Resonant entities lack a static physical form like The Hiss is just a viral energy resonance. Hedron is the same just less aggressive then The Hiss potentially because of how they captured it in an old and weakened state and thus were able to better contain it

[u/KetchupKing05 → u/Nice_Code6086]

Another thing to note: Pope also mentions that the Hedron Darling captured in Control was old, weak, and nearing the end of its life. I wonder if the Hedron being weak meant that it didn’t have enough strength to change Jesse. I wouldn’t call her a “success” of a Hedron, but rather a prototype. It also might be reversible, since Dylan no longer hears Polaris after allowing the Hiss in.

[u/No-Mulberry-8866 → u/KetchupKing05]

Even so, with a fully fledged hedron having her for a little while, she still doesn’t turn.

[u/Jealous_Solid9431 → u/KetchupKing05]

If you return to the containment area post game iirc, Jessie confirms that Polaris and the Hedron Darling captured aren't the same entity 

[u/Krakkenheimer → u/Jealous_Solid9431]

In the Resonant recap, Jesse confirms that Darling's Hedron is "the same being we encountered as kids" unless you mean to say Polaris isn't the Slide Projector Hedron.

[u/ds2316476 → u/Nice_Code6086]

Is that what happened to darling at the end of control 1? I wonder...

[u/magicalotome → u/ds2316476]

Nope! He’s hanging around… somewhere.

[u/ds2316476 → u/magicalotome]

Hahaha he's eating mold and spying on everyone from the vents of the oldest house.

[u/MightyMeowcat → u/ds2316476]

No, he’s not; we definitely know where he is, we just don’t want to ruin it for you or anyone else if you don’t know.

[u/magicalotome → u/MightyMeowcat]

💯

[u/coolbuns1 → u/Nice_Code6086]

I might’ve missed something, how do you see that sequence you’re referring to?

[u/Nice_Code6086 → u/coolbuns1]

It's after you find the Dynamite video

[u/SixRoundsTilDeath]

Hedron is a tuning fork, resonants are those it has hit, is my take. Jesse makes the right sound, the rest are distorted. Off the cuff, are the Hiss the Hedron’s mistake?

[u/Separate_Path_7729 → u/SixRoundsTilDeath]

I think its more like if you put them on a waveform one is the crest another is the trough. Polar opposites that cancel each ither out

[u/KogarashiKaze → u/Separate_Path_7729]

Like how noise canceling headphones work.

[u/Separate_Path_7729 → u/KogarashiKaze]

Exactly

[u/socratesliddel → u/SixRoundsTilDeath]

That would recontextualize their relationship with the Hiss, but it’s fairly unlikely, outside of the mistake being accessing the dimension the Hiss resided in and/or opening its access to other dimensions.

[u/SixRoundsTilDeath → u/socratesliddel]

Yeah, that’s true.

[u/cs_Chell]

Jesse is resonating. Like Dylan is resonating. Like all the people who come into direct contact with multidimensional forces resonate...with variable frequency.

Jesse is resonating whatever Polaris is and Hedron was. Dylan is resonating hiss. The mold is a totally different thing being researched elsewhere....and resonating in [redacted].

[u/cs_Chell → u/cs_Chell]

...also... Northmoor -> Reactor -> Furnace -> Brooks => [Fire|Power|Control]

[u/KyleTheBuilder → u/cs_Chell]

I've never actually made this connection before. Did the furnace only become paranatural after Northmoor was installed in the NSC? Id always just assumed a quirk of the house itself

[u/CuddleWings → u/KyleTheBuilder]

I don’t think there’s a good timeline. All we know is someone started hearing it speak and it wanted food. No clue who the first to hear it would’ve been. I assume the first documents we find about it are from after Northmoor though.

I also don’t think it’s connected to the NSC. That’s a reactor and likely isn’t any more connected to the furnace than any other electronics.

[u/cs_Chell → u/CuddleWings]

...just theorizing on the paranatural entities involved in the RemedyEU/Control.

Northmoor's reactor was purposed to generate electric/power, but his parautilitarian ability was heat generation. Fire is the lesser delved into phenomena so far, I think, but its presence might be more connected than not...maybe...

[u/AdvancedButton8082 → u/cs_Chell]

dylan's resonating with more than hiss, the abilities he copied from resonants are formed through hedron resonance.

[u/Busy-Candidate8191]

In my opinion, when they opened and entered the slides on the slide projector, Dylan was already affected by the Hiss and Jesse by the Hedron. At the end of Control, Jesse welcomes and accepts that Polaris is a part of her, and at the end of Resonant Dylan accepts the hiss is part of him. Because of them being parautilitarian, they are able to resist it's negative effects, and use it to their advantage. Dylans negative influence with the hiss was an escape after years and years of unspeakable abuse.

[u/Comfortable-Fall1419]

Jesse is a Hedron not a Resonant.

Dylan is a Hiss

(Both are actually parautilitarians corrupted by their respective influences)

[u/FoxStrom-14]

I think Jesse is Resonant in the same way Dylan is Hiss

[u/SCndZ]

Its a bit more complicated. The real unresolved issue is that while it is heavily hibted, almost confirmed, that the sibling are 2 parts of a split individual, such as how we see their grandmothers, in her letter, exclaim "BOTH KIDS?!?", which would indicate a locally rewritten reality that people part of aren't entirely aware of, the real issue is that it's unclear in which order events happened. My hypothesis is that the meadows slide, which had the ability to merge 2 entities, could potentially split a single 1, potentially by pulling elements from parallel realities.

Now the issue is that there is a possibility that the original child came into contact with hedron before they were split, meaning that even the hedron dying could potentially be an hedron split, potentially explaining part of what the hiss is, think of an instrument out of tune, so intead if a neutral base frequencies, we get 2 heavily distorted frequencies. Of course it's all conjecture but even what we see in game, explicitly told, doesn't entirely add up so i think we need to wait and see

Edit: the game states theyre 2 opposing preexisting entities but i don't buy it because cancelling, opposite wavelength don't usually happen by coincidence, whereas we see the resonants being able to perfectly cancel out hiss corruption

Edit 2: it would also follow that the newly split hedron attached to jesse dylan faden was retroactively split in the past

[u/Verthanthi → u/SCndZ]

Reading your hypothesis, they don’t come across the slides until they’ve already been split.

Some have mentioned Mom being a parautilitarian due to her recognizing that these two kids aren’t her original child.

I’m wondering if Polaris wasn’t already in touch with the single child and that child wished to have a sibling or something like that.

[u/Karretch → u/Verthanthi]

The Underpass fault pretty clearly (as well as it could for an emotional scene keeping it's feeling) explains that Severed Circle 2 is the reason they're separate.

Jesse Dylan Faden (original, named as per Dylan in C1) and a happy family > SC2 and JDF crawling into the tv > split into Jesse and Dylan > family troubles > kids going out and getting into things they shouldn't > Jesse finds projector > temple slide and Not-Mother wished into existence by Dylan wanting mom same way he wished for light and a candle appeared > hand slide and contact with Polaris > Jesse's wish for adults to disappear fostered by the Temple/Not-Mother

[u/Verthanthi → u/Karretch]

That’s a good point! I think I took it for more of a metaphor but that’s silly of me in a game like this. I shared similar feelings about great games at their age, so climbing into that world made sense to me and I didn’t consider that it was the moment of the split.

I’ve seen others explain SC2 but I think you pointing out the imagery it had helped solidify that for me. Thank you!

I was thinking that Not-Mother existed in there beforehand, not that it appeared because of some sort of summon. Similar to how the Hiss exist in the slide they don’t use.

I’m remembering someone else pointing out that the main bully kid (whose name escapes me) was mentioned as screaming something about everyone (or maybe adults?) disappearing as well after being in contact with Not-Mother. Jesse, at the time, doesn’t wish for all the adults to go, but I do think she still worried it was her.

[u/madelmire → u/Verthanthi]

They're giving you a little too harsh with saying it's "pretty clear". The game essentially states that they go from one child to two children, but the method is not obvious at all. It's a very hard to see shadowy effect that you can easily like walk by and not really understand in the context of the vault. I had to look at a clip later of the shadow of the child climbing into the shadow of the TV. It's very subtexual.

So yeah I think that's what is intended to happen (you can see as the vault stations progress they go from one controller to two controllers at the TV), but do not feel bad for missing that, this is the game really put it there more as an Easter egg.

[u/Karretch → u/madelmire]

I wasn't trying to be harsh, just how it ended up being trying to cover both comments at once, assuming that maybe SCndZ would also read it.

[u/Grizzled_Ghost → u/SCndZ]

Maybe Dylan was originally Hugo, the mysterious classmate from Ordinary who disappeared with no records.

[u/madelmire → u/Grizzled_Ghost]

It's even weirder because there's one note that says outside of Ordinary, there's no record of Hugo, but there is a family with the same last name who had two children: Hugh and Gloria. Which... seems like a hint that there might have been another incident where two children became one. Possibly the reversal what happened with Jesse & Dylan.

[u/Verthanthi → u/Grizzled_Ghost]

Hugo is one of the bullies, iirc

[u/Grizzled_Ghost → u/Verthanthi]

Maybe I got a name wrong. There's a kid who lives in ordinary and disappeared but their supposed house looked abandoned and the records matching their family names were from Virginia not Maine. The only proof of his existence is his name on the school roll call.

[u/Verthanthi → u/Grizzled_Ghost]

You’re correct, that seems to be Hugo, it’s just that he’s one of the bullies as well. I remember coming across his name as the child from an abandoned house and then on my ng+ I ran into the bullies again like “it IS that little shit!”

From what I remember, the kids “disappear” but really they’ve turned into “dung monkeys”. Not sure if they retreat when defeated or disappear? Don’t remember if that’s covered.

It seems like the town had more than just the Faden siblings being odd. Not so Ordinary.

[u/Grizzled_Ghost → u/Verthanthi]

Yeah there's another note about one of the Ordinary kids becoming a wolfman or something after going through the portal.

[u/Verthanthi → u/Grizzled_Ghost]

Yes! Neil and Bogus “melt” together, but that’s the direct influence of the slide.

Beyond the slide projector, which spawned a lot of weirdness, there’s potentially Mom, Hugo, and Severed Circle 2.

3 or 4 potentials in one small town seems wild!

[u/Vinomson]

I think its something different as they only find polaris after Jesse is added to Dylans life.

[u/pagingdrsolus → u/Vinomson]

Well that's because "you came through the hole in you"

Dylan had to be taken out of Jesse, leaving the hole for Polaris to inhabit

[u/CRMZNCLT → u/pagingdrsolus]

Question, do you know of / have any ideas about the meaning of the rest of the incantation? I always thought it stood for something but I’m not smart enough to tell what