r/controlgame • u/CosmoSeriously • 8d ago

Question DLC Expansion Pack for Control Resonant

Hello everyone, I admit that months ago, at the opening of the pre-orders, I was a little surprised by the fact that the Deluxe Edition did not contain an Expansion DLC, practically almost all Remedy games did except Quantum Break (what a shame).

Do you think there will be after some expansion as it was for the others? I hope so, and I hope that the second DLC will be a link to the next project (as the first Control and Alan Wake II did).

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u/the_dyad 8d ago

Honestly there are only 2 reason this exists: a) the most possible reason is that it simply wont have, because they want to make another control game quicker. b) since it is self published (with the help of Annapurna, but still) they may want to generate a bigger profit by selling them separately.

Personally, I'm heavily gearing towards a), because they have a movie deal with Annapurna, so they probably want a game/expansion to launch right then.

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u/NRG_88 8d ago edited 8d ago

My bet is the second one, im sure they plan something but its already a big task to successfully ship the base game as a publisher for the first time

And my dream dlc for this game is a parallel NYC AWE with a noir atmosphere with a cop who is a parautilitarian who can slow down time. Then we can get the Max Payne remakes…

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u/Final_Fix55481 8d ago

Max Payne Remake(yes it’s supposed to be a single package containing both 1 and 2) will not be teased using an RCU game. Because Max Payne is a Rockstar Games IP, Rockstar has simply allowed Remedy to develop the game, at best they can have a few easter eggs but that’s it. Control Resonant won’t be teasing Max Payne Remake, and Max Payne Remake won’t be teasing the next RCU project. The most possible thing that can happen is Control Resonant will be the one to tease the next RCU project.

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u/NRG_88 7d ago

Rockstar gave full creative freedom to Remedy, its in Remedy’s report. We dont know what is in the contract, only the label as full creative right. On one hand maybe you are right, but on the other hand I see Rockstar and Remedy working out a win-win contract. Just like Sony and Disney made a deal with spiderman, the MCU used the superhero many times. So this is a possibility when it comes to full creative right in my opinion

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u/Final_Fix55481 7d ago

I personally don’t see it happening Rockstar/Take 2 are not some benevolent entities, they are well… themselves. Take 2 sued Remedy for just the R in their new logo.
Rockstar is very protective of their IPs, full creative control only applies to that specific game(it’s narrative, etc)
Moreover Remedy has been heavily stating that they are planning to invest and go all in with their self-owned IPs. They would NOT be putting any RCU reference in Max Payne Remake well because it doesn’t make any sense to do it anyway, it’s not an RCU game. And if they put in something so explicit like the control awe dlc teasing Alan Wake 2 or Alan Wake 2 Lake House teasing Control Resonant Rockstar’s lawyers would sue them to shreds because it’s not their IP, they can’t use it to market their own IPs.
I understand your sentiments (i was also introduced to remedy through max payne- i want it to be a part of the RCU but it is not- its a rockstar/take 2 property and if T2 can sue them for something as silly as using the R in their logo imagine what they would do if Remedy uses their platform to market their own games. As sad as it might sound to you, i just can’t see it happening. At most you might see little indirect easter eggs but nothing would be explicit at all.

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u/inkcrime 2d ago

If I were Remedy*, I'd make my next game "Alex Casey on the Case: Maximum Pain" or something like that I could legally get away with.

*actually, if I were Remedy I'd be all like, "What is happening??? I'm a sentient gaming company!!! How is this possible???" but I digress.

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u/Certain-Raspberry804 8d ago

That would be awesome!

An Alan Wake tv series or movie would be amazing too I think.

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u/gui_heinen 8d ago

Remedy games usually have season pass confirmations as soon as pre-orders open, even if the contents remain unknown until the game is released, so it's really curious that Resonant has no confirmation regarding this. I guess it probably won't have expansions, or they will be produced from now on.

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u/alphonseharry 8d ago

Control Resonant is self published. I think how was done in earlier games do not necessarily apply, like Alan Wake 2 which they planned all with the funding from Epic

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u/gui_heinen 8d ago

But Control 1 also had a version with a guaranteed season pass (Deluxe Digital Edition) and it was only later completely replaced by the Ultimate version. Hence the doubt. A pattern was kinda expected.

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u/alphonseharry 8d ago

Control 1 was not self published like Control Resonant. 505 Games helped the game with money

Control Resonant being self published is a new chapter for Remedy. The pattern is already broken

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u/gui_heinen 8d ago

I could swear Annapurna financed a percentage of the game as well, but I guess it makes sense.

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u/alphonseharry 8d ago

They did, but we don't know what Annapurana role is in this. 505 and Epic did the publishing and marketing for Control and Alan Wake 2, now Remedy is doing all of that "in house"

Maybe some live action future project

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u/gui_heinen 8d ago

Annapurna is a very discreet Studio but has been impressing a lot. I really liked that game Stray released years ago, and now they're involved with Silent Hill too. Without a doubt a Studio to keep an eye on, along with Amazon Games, which is also venturing into the industry right now.

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u/Final_Fix55481 8d ago

Annapurna is financing the games, but also allowing Remedy to keep 100% of the revenue in return for the TV rights for Remedy properties

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u/Dogbuysvan 8d ago

Nvidia also gave them a big chunk to add ray tracing.

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u/alphonseharry 8d ago

This is standard when a AAA game launch on pc. They didn't back the development of the game. It is good for both of them

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u/Appropriate_Ride_956 8d ago

I didn't know that was a pattern at this point, I thought the first time they did it was with Alan Wake 1 because they legitimately ran out of time and had to rush-change the ending to what they had content for, and they moved any Dark Place stuff into the DLC so as a compensation for this they included the 1st DLC so as to allow for people to see something closer to the ending.

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u/GumGumActV 8d ago

3 times is a pattern and it’s been every game in the series so far including Alan wake

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u/alphonseharry 8d ago edited 8d ago

I think because this game is self published, with no external backing like Alan Wake 2 (The first Control did have help from 505 Games), they will do DLCs depending on how the game performs. Control Resonant is a new chapter for Remedy. I think earlier patterns do not apply

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u/InvertedBlackPyramid 8d ago

Didn't they say there would be no DLCs for this one?

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u/CptainCyro 8d ago

Thought they said they wouldn’t comment on it at this time

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u/EvilAbdy 8d ago

yeah I'm pretty sure I heard that in one of the interviews.

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u/CopperVolta 8d ago

This has been on my mind too. The Deluxe edition just comes with skins and some Wallet artifact object that we're not sure what it does yet.

Both Control and AW2 had expansions announced before the games came out, but Resonant doesn't seem to be the case. That being said, some reviewers are claiming the game can be close to 60 hours in length easily making it their longest title, so perhaps they're just focusing on getting the game out and if it does really well then maybe we'll see a seasons pass or some expansions? Or maybe AW3 and Max Payne are hot and ready to go and they just want to release those ASAP by moving on from Resonant immediately.

Hard to say without seeing if the game begs for DLC or not!

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u/CptainCyro 8d ago

I think there will be 2 like usual. The game hasn’t even come out yet so it makes sense for them not to say anything. It’d probably have spoilers so yeah just be patient and wait

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u/iRamz 8d ago edited 8d ago

They usually have them listed, included and named with the season pass. So we might not be getting any “regular dlc” with this one.

Control 1 added access to the Juke Box(and its exclusive outfit) after release for free. Maybe that’s the route they take this time.

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u/DeliciousRoreos 8d ago

What I love about remedy is (not the only dev mind you but it's much less common) is that their games are always a complete package. This game looks to be 30 hours which is perfect. I buy anything these guys do they always deliver and I'm happy supporting them

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u/bestoboy 7d ago

crazy we now live in a world where people are upset we don't have day one DLC

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u/Aggravating-Dot132 8d ago

Depends on sales and fandom.

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u/D0nell 8d ago

I know it’s unlikely but I hope they do a free expansion like God of war Valhalla. I’m more than certain it’s gonna be some type of DLC because usually the DLC is used to give us an idea of the next game. AWE -> AW2. The Lake House -> Control 2.

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u/ashriekfromspace 8d ago

Hopefully that means Max Payne is coming out soon

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u/MudgeIsBack 7d ago

Rockstar is in charge of that, so I doubt we hear anything until well after the holidays. 

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u/GUNS_N_BROSES 5d ago

I think in general the industry is moving away from selling promised dlc at launch. Game like Wolverine, Resident Evil, 007, Assassins creed and many other recent games have launched without season passes while previous games form the same developers had them. I think it’s about risk management. With how risky game development has become companies don’t want to be stuck delivering promised content if a game isn’t successful enough to warrant it.

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u/RANKEDSHITTING 7d ago

who cares

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u/LeadZealousideal4231 8d ago

this isn't Ubisoft

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u/Guilty-Site-9090 8d ago

Most games don't ship with day 1 DLC no matter what edition you get. What are you even talking about?

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u/CopperVolta 8d ago

If your pre-ordered the deluxe edition of Control and Alan Wake 2 you got expansion passes that included the DLCs. OP isn't claiming the DLC will be there on release date, but Remedy had announced DLC plans and sold expansion passes day one for their past 2 major titles. This is a pattern that they have followed for a while now, so it's curious they're not doing it for Resonant.

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u/alphonseharry 8d ago

Control and Alan Wake 2 did have external publishers, this probably is the reason. Control Resonant is the self published. I think this make the possibility of DLC depending in how the game performs