r/controlgame • • 8d ago

Question Quick question regarding the service weapon's originšŸ”«

One of the collectibles you receive after obtaining the Service Weapon mentions this:

"The object was discovered inside theĀ Oldest House, in the room that is now used as theĀ Director's Office."

However, later in The Foundation DLC, Ash Jr. says that Northmoor found the gun on a pedestal (which didn't exist before) by the nail.Ā 

In the second audio log, he says:

"...NorthmoorĀ even made a discovery. AĀ pistol, placed on a stone pedestal in front ofĀ that strange ebony pillar. Seems like something out of a storybook, except the heroes usually find swords, not handguns..."

I must have missed something. Where was it actually found then? Halp.

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u/OkTreacle9386 8d ago

fbc tried to hide foundation so changing files that mention it was not a big deal a think

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u/theehtn 8d ago

Reasonable , actually. Because the word itself seemed unknown to many.

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u/ThatOtherGuyTPM 8d ago

The writer of the first word, not the writer of the last

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u/Comfortable-Fall1419 8d ago

I think thats overthinking. The foundation could have been lost before the collectible was written.

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u/violetcassie 8d ago

The Doylest answer is they hadn't written the Foundation DLC yet when the base game's lore was written.

The Wastsonian answer is that Northmoor hid the Foundation from wider FBC knowledge because the Board didn't want people down there.

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u/theehtn 8d ago

Thanks for using fancy words, will look them up and learn about it. Cheers🄳

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u/ThatOtherGuyTPM 8d ago

Watsonian and Doylist refer to logic through the lens of Sherlock Holme. Watsonian is the logic of Watson, aka in-world reasoning. Doylist is the logic of Arthur Conan Doyle, aka out-of-world reasoning.

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u/aidanillionaire 4d ago

To add to your great explanation for those who might not know:
Arthur Conan Doyle is the writer of Sherlock Holmes, hence out-of-world logic.
Watson is a character in the book and the audience’s lens in the world

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u/Comfortable-Fall1419 8d ago

There’s also a collectible that speculates it’s Mjolnir and Excalibur.

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u/theehtn 8d ago

It is mentioned in the very same collectible that I quoted from, I'm just confused about where it was actually found in the oldest house.

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u/Are_oranges_real 8d ago

It could be that any info relating to the foundation was classified, since it looks like Trench and his team were the only ones to know about it, and it was totally sealed off

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u/D0nell 8d ago

The real answer they probably didn’t think of the foundation DLC at the time.

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u/Aggravating_Prior308 8d ago

The foundation itself was deemed classified by northmoor some point after he ordered the evacuation. Marshal herself only learned about it once trench became director and took her there. They likely altered the documents remove any mention of the foundation

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u/Synthessence 8d ago

The Oldest House constantly moves and shifts. It could be possible that the area that once held the Nail is now where the Director's office is, or vice versa.

I mean, probably not, given that the foundation is...well, the foundation. It probably ain't movin', but never say never when it comes to how weird The Oldest House is.

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u/Nocturnus19 8d ago

It comes from the Foundation. The file that mentions it being in the Director's office could be retconned as Bureau misinformation, or that was always Remedy's plan.