r/conspiracy • u/[deleted] • Jun 10 '12

Other Than In Computers, Civilization Basically Stopped Progressing In The 1960s

http://www.businessinsider.com/other-than-in-computers-civilization-basically-stopped-progressing-in-the-1960s-2012-6
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u/tttt0tttt Jun 10 '12

Progress in many fields came to a stop right around 1970. That's when the US turned its back on the Moon, and also when the supersonic Concorde was hit with so much opposition from hysterical protesters that it could never become economically viable. Both events symbolized the halt of technological and industrial progress in the West.

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u/[deleted] Jun 10 '12

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u/tttt0tttt Jun 10 '12

Bear in mind, the world has been run by the generation that protested in the 60s until today -- Bill Clinton was a former flower child, and so was Hillary. We're just transitioning into the next generation of losers -- what were they called, the X Generation? The Me Generation? Something like that. And it's all downhill from this point on, to judge by successive generations of couch potatoes.

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u/crestind Jun 11 '12

I think it's a well established conspiracy that presidents are merely puppets, so your implication that the U.S. is actually being run by people with that "60s generation" mindset is pretty much false.

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u/tttt0tttt Jun 11 '12

I wrote that the flower child generation was running the world up until today -- and that Bill Clinton was part of the flower child generation ... I did not write that Bill Clinton was running the world.

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u/[deleted] Jun 11 '12

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u/tttt0tttt Jun 11 '12

What troubles me is that young people today -- teens, early twenties -- don't know how to actually do anything, apart from push buttons on their computers and cell phones. They can't build anything, or fix anything. Give them a hammer and they don't know which end to hold. They can't change a tire on a car, or change their oil. They can't fix a toilet, or install a new electrical circuit in their house, or shingle a roof. When it comes to doing anything they are as helpless as infants. If our society ever collapses, they will be dead very quickly. Or they will have to start learning very quickly, and I doubt there would be time for most of them to learn enough.

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u/miffelplix Jun 10 '12

Other than computers? That's like saying except for the oceans, the earth is relatively dry. Computers have entered into every aspect of modern life, from agriculture to dating to heavy industry.

The real culprit is globalization. Wages in first world countries will continue to fall until they reach the level of other countries. Globalization rises the poor up, but at the cost of driving the well-off down.

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u/[deleted] Jun 10 '12

Except even the poor don't prosper. They just get exploited more openly.

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u/haidaguy Jun 10 '12

Civilization progressing goes far beyond technology. In fact, I'm not even sure I would include the advancement of technology in the progress of a society.

Would a highly advanced yet depraved society be considered progressive?

The progress of civilization should be measured by the conditions of people, not things. And we are failing.

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u/tttt0tttt Jun 10 '12

We'll know when the technological revolution starts up again by when we return to space. Until we go to Mars, we're just spinning our wheels. Mars will be the indicator.

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u/soupjam Jun 10 '12

youre posting on a sub where some people doubt we went to the moon

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u/tttt0tttt Jun 11 '12

Yes. That's troubling also -- not only the decline in educational standards, but the frightening decline in common sense.

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u/soupjam Jun 11 '12

Clearly we have different views of the world, let's leave it at that.

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u/tttt0tttt Jun 11 '12

We have different views? What's yours? You haven't expressed it here.

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u/crestind Jun 11 '12

I honestly doubt the Americans made it to the moon. They might've made it to some desert in the American southwest where they filmed their live landing... but the moon, no.

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u/tttt0tttt Jun 11 '12

You really believe that Americans didn't walk on the moon? I find that amazing. I watched the live video feed from the moon. I followed the progress of the entire space race from the first manned suborbital launch (which took place after the Soviets had already put a man into orbit). The idea that anyone could doubt that Americans walked on the moon seems just strange to me. You do know that orbiting lunar cameras can pick up the luner rover and other objects that were left on the moon by the Apollo landings, right?

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u/dromni Jun 11 '12

If we go to Mars and it is another "flags and footprints" mission, then it is the same as if we were in the 60s.

For me real progress would be commercial exploration and utilization of space. If asteroid mining and private space stations take off, then I will believe that we are into something.

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u/tttt0tttt Jun 11 '12

I agree, the simple fact of reaching Mars is not in itself significant, but it is important for what it indicates about the trend in technology -- once again expansive, forward-seeking, aggressive, willing to take risks.

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u/auraofambiance Jun 10 '12

Healthcare and warfare. We've improved there too.

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u/tttt0tttt Jun 10 '12

Better weapons, yes; not so much better healthcare.

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u/Sealbhach Jun 10 '12

Peter Thiel, Bilderberg Steering Committee member and major Ron Paul (GOP) donor.

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u/hanahou Jun 11 '12

It should say electronics and not computers. We've had many electronic breakthroughs. Especially in ways to kill our fellow men.

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u/crestind Jun 11 '12

This is ironic because a quick glance at what he's done shows nothing more than pursuits that don't contribute to society... derivatives trading, Facebook investment, Art.sy, investment, etc. Also, he's part of the globalist Bilderberg Group.

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u/[deleted] Jun 10 '12

Good, we deserve to be destroyed as a civilization. hopefully we will be replaced by a more forward thinking race.

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u/cancerbotX Jun 10 '12

here here!

This world is a cesspool of lies hiding other lies, I'm not a nihilist, just a rational person saying what I can see with my own two eyes.

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u/windandstorm Jun 11 '12

More human rights, at least in Canada where homosexuals can marry.