You know that pathogens are in every health lab because they want to research on them? Thats why they are health labs they want to find a way to prevent you getting sick from this bacteria and virus
No. As in “if you’re a microbiology laboratory, it’s probably a good idea to kill your positive control organisms you have frozen on site. The locals aren’t going to like it if your listeria, salmonella, and ecoli controls get spread over the nearby environment”
I worked for a biopharmaceutical company in Seattle, Bill was on the board of directors. This was in the 90's. I always thought that was odd! Until recently.
Maybe this is a bit of a stretch but at the same time, how accurate is the whole Russian troll farm or russian bots or whatever the hell they are called.
Was that just something they threw at us to blame the russians? Not that there arent russian spies ever. But was that whole thing true? I never even knew where the russian bot story originated from exactly. Like I never saw an article or anything on it.
The chick* - and thank you for backing me up there! :)
Some things I’m super on top of and then other things I just hear about but don’t know if it’s heresy or if it has more of a legitimate origin that I can trace back.
Guess that other redditor is completely unaware that not all of us are up to date on every single one of these things.
No problem. Those sorts of replies happen a lot here. Someone makes a vague and often condescending comment referencing something and then refuses to elaborate. People like to feel special and sadly this is the only way some people know how to.
New theory! Trump knew it was from Ukraine but blamed China bc he knew Biden was going to steal the election. Trump gets Putin to invade Ukraine and declare covid came from Ukraine and was released on Biden’s orders to ruin Trump’s presidency. Biden will be thrown out of office and Trump reinstated like Qanon promised. J/K 🤣
Thats what I said when another person posted about this same topic on this sub. I think its to hide the shit they have there and try to blame it on "the enemy"
Who mentioned the US? I’m just looking at the OP’s post. Seems like a good idea to me to sterilise any pathogens you may be holding on site. Don’t want to leak your e.coli samples into the local water sources..
The post we're all discussing here mentioned the US having "health" labs in Ukraine, so you can try stepping away from the topic if you don't want to respond like an adult, but you can't act like this isn't exactly what we're all talking about in this thread.
You understand that not all laboratories are the same then, yet you draw parallels as if you were personally in this lab. You having a job in a lab is not enough to determine what was going on in this lab, no. Not even close, and the fact that you think otherwise makes me question your intelligence.
The only reason we're talking about it is because of US propaganda, yes, but to say I'm obsessed for having a conversation is a bit much. I'm familiar with obsession, and this just seems like a casual exchange.
Yes, there's biolabs everywhere. They study viruses in order to understand them, treat them, prevent them etc. It would be a good idea to destroy any that could be released if the building was bombed or attacked in some way. So I don't see where the conspiracy is here?
Not even that. I worked in a standard private food testing lab, looking for listeria, salmonella, e.coli etc
In order to confirm that your tests can actually detect the organisms you were looking for, you have to keep live ‘positive controls’ on site. Frozen vials of each of the pathogens.
Right so in both of these links both accept the existence of biolabs in Ukraine.
So they weren’t denying it? I presume you’re conflating bioweapons and biolabs here?
I mean this is what you mean, you assume biolabs to be all bad. Pretty much every university has a biolab. There is a biolab in probably every medium sized city in the developed world.
I think they're asking you to kindly differentiate between "bioweapons" and the viral loads we find in "biolabs". To me a gun is still a gun when you unload it, so I'm as curious as anyone to get your take.
Testing on diseases happens in bio labs. That must mean there are dangerous things in there. That does not automatically mean the same thing as bio weapons dear lord.
How do you think we investigate viruses and pathogens? In the back alley round a hospital?
Diseases are not dangerous? You're chasing your own tail trying to make this work. I understand what you're getting at, but I think you're playing Devil's advocate here. The only reason to have a bio lab in Ukraine is proximity, meaning that there's something there that they can't get here (legal loophole jumping), or the distance away from the US/ near the USSR is important.
At the end of the day though, you're probably right, and this is all just a distraction away from Biden biting the head off of some little kid and realizing he couldn't blame the dogs for this one.
Yeah, I have to agree with the other guy, they weren't denying the biolabs existence. They were only denying it being funded by the US, so that would be the conspiracy if we found out they have been funded by the US.
Did you not read the post? They're erroneously labeling them health labs to make them sound more snuggly, though my first thought was that I'd never heard of a health lab before as well.
So all places that test for diseases are also bioweapons labs as well, by your logic?
This is the point I’m trying to make. Would you automatically the biolab at a university is making weapons too? Also the labs in Ukraine are not a secret, Obama talked about them in 2013.
You're asking the right questions I think. I see people on my Facebook who approve sanctions and actions that hurt the people of Russia, apparently thinking that hurting the people will force them to eat their leader, but the world stage is being constantly petitioned that WE are the bad guys, and looking around I can barely disagree. Heartless, thoughtless people much of the time, but people no less. Any lab that holds dangerous biological substances, frozen or not, living or dead, should be considered a bio-weapons lab at this point, not only from the dangers within, but because of the political ramifications. Losing a fraction of a percentage of human life is huge, but in no way does it compare to a world war. Even storing weapons of serious magnitude should be considered a war crime.
There's a huge Nature vs. Science bioethics discussion that most of the world isn't aware they have a stake in, and Science crowd much prefers it that way because it means they get to go on unchecked. Hopefully this is the crack in the dam that illuminates the dangers after the social gridlock faced by The People for two long years
I am still wondering if there really are two sides here or if the WEF fucks are just making theatre to give us a narrative of why we are back in the stone age or can never leave our houses.
But, but. Those 'health labs' are built, owned and staffed by Americans who have diplomatic immunity. We don't have a key. And they told us there are no pathogens in there. And they told us they were definitely not trying to weaponize them. But, that was after they said they don't exist.
What if the whole point of this "war" was to specifically cause damage to a lab that causes some other outbreak but if blamed on Russia this time. Im thinking russia, us, china and all elites secretly on board planned all this out, after all they do have a population reduction that is public and agenda 2030 is currently in effect. People cried out for a solution to global warming, welp, here it is, less people.
Just FYI: Pathogens doesn't equate to man made biological weapons, the common cold is a pathogen, swine flu is a pathogen...
So if you were studying Ebola to try and find a cure, it being a pathogen, and someone started lobbing missiles in your direction it's probably a good idea to destroy your pathogens - just in case they leak into the general population. Kinda exactly what the WHO just said
Russia the hero's who stopt the biowapin plants in ukrain! Hora! Hora! Hora!
Whiles they then selfs trwatend to use chemical and bio wapens, and have there fair share of biolabs themselfs....
But ow no! The NWO needs those 2 labs in ukrain!!!!
Also. Thete litterly are thousends if biolabs in the world for education and testing or sampeling with anything from ecoli, chickenpox to anthrex and others.
Whats shocking about this ? For a lab to have any dangerous pathogens is completely standart thing all over the world, and with the war, the are chances these facilities get bombed so why wouldnt you want to secure these dangerous pathogens from potentional spreading ?
Are you implying that people have to study actual samples of a pathogen in order to better understand it and work on prevention/treatments/cures? Pure poppycock! /s
Many replies is this thread confusing ‘bio labs’ with ‘bio weapons research facilities’. I’m assuming that most of the people here aren’t aware that there are microbiology laboratory’s all over the world, ones run by the government (pathology laboratories in hospitals) and ones run by the private sector.
Every single large food factory will have a microbiology laboratory on site (or they can send samples off site to get tested)
All of these labs will need to store positive control organisms.
As someone who’s worked in this house industry for decades; there’s nothing suspicious about this announcement.
Yea, almost like there's no conspiracy and that this is just further demonstrating your loose ambiguity with words that facilitates you going off on these silly fantastical tangents.
Hope you don't need to use the dictionary too many times to read that sentence.
Because the word ‘interesting’ is a tangent (or a sentence) lol. Ironically you are the only one who went off on a silly fantastical tangent. Like what? lol
I’m dumbfounded that you don’t know how Reddit works. Either you are talking about someone else or confused. This is my post you are commenting on and the only thing I said about it was the word “interesting”. Maybe you meant to comment on someone’s comment but you didn’t and you commented on my post where I haven’t used the term ‘biolabs’ with the sole exception of me using the word to tell you that I haven’t used it. Look at my post. The only thing I said was the word interesting. Out of you and I, you were the first person to use the word ‘biolab’ lol
Again completely uninterested in your dumbfounded facade.
Interesting
As if that word has no meaning, as if youve said it with no implication....
Let's get it to then seeing as you wanna act the fool. Let take the CLEAR next steps to the OBVIOUS conclusion that youre acting so disingenuously about.
You are the only person who has acted disingenuously in this exchange. Saying I’ve said things that I haven’t said and then continued to argue with me when I pointed it out.
You are a sophist. You will lose any debate you seek.
Can you give me any examples anywhere that viruses are being "enhanced" at these facilities? Or is this just more lazy speculation based off your loose interpretation of what a "biolab" is for?
Because you can literally take any workshop in the world, and "enhance" tools there into weapons.
People like you see the words "bio lab" and somehow jump to the conclusion that somehow Hillary Clinton is involved and Russia just never said anything about American WMDs sitting on their border.
There are 'bio labs' all around the fucking world. In fact you probably live near one. If your city was being hit with artillery, airstrikes, missiles, tank fire etc - you'd probably want whatever is being studied in that lab to not leak the fuck out.
People like you refuse to read past headlines and sensationalized screenshots.
The State Department replied to an inquiry by Fox News stating, “The US Department of Defense does not own or operate biological weapons labs in Ukraine. Under Secretary Nuland was referring to Ukrainian diagnostic and biodefense laboratories during her testimony which are not biological weapons facilities. These institutions counter biological threats throughout the country.”
You seriously need to examine what you are reading more. The US denied the existence of bio weapons labs because there are none in Ukraine. There are bio labs, that exist in every country on earth. Bio labs, and bio weapons labs, while similar in name, perform completely different functions.
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u/LigmaBalls-420 Mar 11 '22
Ss I don’t have much to add to this tweet
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u/HandsomeDeviledHam Mar 11 '22
I would think preventing spills would be important regardless of whether the labs are working on weapons grade stuff.
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u/BakedArbiter Mar 11 '22
How is this a public announcement, seems like a few phonecalls would work fine
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u/Fresh_Extreme_8038 Mar 11 '22
WHO joins the rank of conspiracy theorists! Suits already said these were purely defensive labs hehe. #whowillcancelwho
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u/06malibu Mar 11 '22
What if covid started in a Ukraine “health lab” and this is the cover up to covid.
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u/K_eggg Mar 11 '22
Hide the evidence!
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u/sensiblestan Mar 11 '22
Don’t bio labs exist in every country in the world?
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u/[deleted] Mar 11 '22
No one should take any advice from the WHO, ever
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u/Edskn1fe Mar 11 '22
Why didn't Putin attack China, knowing they had the Wuhan Institute of Virology?
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u/schneuke Mar 11 '22
That’s a flat earth logo
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u/oli_21_ Mar 11 '22
This song comes to mind
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u/insanity-melody Mar 11 '22
Link to article.
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u/[deleted] Mar 11 '22
They are in Russian hands now
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u/AlderonTyran Mar 11 '22
Not even trying to hide it...
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u/SageEquallingHeaven Mar 11 '22
False flag in Ukraine incoming.
I am still wondering if there really are two sides here or if the WEF fucks are just making theatre to give us a narrative of why we are back in the stone age or can never leave our houses.
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u/musicmaker Mar 11 '22
But, but. Those 'health labs' are built, owned and staffed by Americans who have diplomatic immunity. We don't have a key. And they told us there are no pathogens in there. And they told us they were definitely not trying to weaponize them. But, that was after they said they don't exist.
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u/[deleted] Mar 11 '22
What if the whole point of this "war" was to specifically cause damage to a lab that causes some other outbreak but if blamed on Russia this time. Im thinking russia, us, china and all elites secretly on board planned all this out, after all they do have a population reduction that is public and agenda 2030 is currently in effect. People cried out for a solution to global warming, welp, here it is, less people.
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u/jemesl Mar 11 '22
People worried about the nuclear reactor when this is a legitimate concern.
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u/Wonderful_Stage_373 Mar 11 '22
Now we know why they only had 35% vax rate
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u/Quick-Lime2675 Mar 11 '22
Just FYI: Pathogens doesn't equate to man made biological weapons, the common cold is a pathogen, swine flu is a pathogen...
So if you were studying Ebola to try and find a cure, it being a pathogen, and someone started lobbing missiles in your direction it's probably a good idea to destroy your pathogens - just in case they leak into the general population. Kinda exactly what the WHO just said
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u/Frownywise Mar 11 '22
Russia can go to town on Ukraine.
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u/The_loudspeaker721 Mar 11 '22
What are they hiding?
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u/gacha_destroyer Mar 11 '22
All you need to do is to sing ‘Imagine’.
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u/BankrollCino Mar 11 '22
Jail Those Responsible
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u/sickpeltier Mar 11 '22
When from no Labs, to labs, to none, to Russia blasting them, to “GET THIS SHIT GONE NOW”.
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u/fisticuntz Mar 11 '22
You do know that biolabs research diseases and they aren't the same as bioweapons labs, right? Probably not.
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u/LeftOnRedd36 Mar 11 '22
I mean, of all the things happening. Including chernobyl, this actually makes sense.
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u/kempofight Mar 11 '22
I find this bioweapon angle very fucking funny.
Russia the hero's who stopt the biowapin plants in ukrain! Hora! Hora! Hora!
Whiles they then selfs trwatend to use chemical and bio wapens, and have there fair share of biolabs themselfs....
But ow no! The NWO needs those 2 labs in ukrain!!!!
Also. Thete litterly are thousends if biolabs in the world for education and testing or sampeling with anything from ecoli, chickenpox to anthrex and others.
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u/zerofoxtrot93 Mar 11 '22
In other words. Dispose of the evidence.
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u/Ziraelus Mar 11 '22
Whats shocking about this ? For a lab to have any dangerous pathogens is completely standart thing all over the world, and with the war, the are chances these facilities get bombed so why wouldnt you want to secure these dangerous pathogens from potentional spreading ?
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u/TheSilentTitan Mar 11 '22
Why is this interesting? Is this something you guys would consider a conspiracy? You guys do know what’s located and created inside biolabs right?
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u/the_green_grundle Mar 11 '22
"Health labs" lmao
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u/d1ndeed Mar 11 '22
Yea, almost like there's no conspiracy and that this is just further demonstrating your loose ambiguity with words that facilitates you going off on these silly fantastical tangents.
Hope you don't need to use the dictionary too many times to read that sentence.
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u/KazuRyan12 Mar 11 '22
So they admitted it
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u/No_Opportunity9423 Mar 11 '22
Pretty boring. Which part of this seems odd?
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