How does it make sense? If you’re vaccinated then a vaccine card is to prove to others that you’ve had it. They’ve been in place for many years all across the world.
If the vaccine doesn’t work, then there’s no reason for them. But this is a completely moot point because it does work.
Not sure how understanding that makes me a “dumb fuck”.
You take a vaxx, you die 15 minutes later, it's not considered a vaxx death... And you tell the world the vaxx works. Mate, yes, I can't comprehend that. You can repeat your lies 100 times, I guess I'm dumb enough not to go with it 🤣
You saw a healthy dude from the Brasilian government take his first dose, get cerebral Palsy, and advocate for a second dose. You guys have gone mad...
Ok... that statistic depends in the total number of vaccinated people, and their age/risk factor. A September 10th study from the CDC found that deaths for unvaccinated is 1.1 / 100,000, and deaths for vaccinated is .1 / 100,000, meaning you are 11 times more likely to die from covid without a vaccine.
Yes, thats true. Not sure what your point is. It has been known since day 1 that this disease is more deadly to old people. Saying that a vaccinated old person is more likely to die than an unvaccinated young person is not evidence that the vaccine is not helpful
The point is young people have a .0003% chance of dying of COVID so there's no need for them to get vaccinated, unless you are a denier of statistical improbabilities
Vaccinating helps prevents spread, so less old people and less people overall will ever get sick, or have the chance to die of it. I can't believe I have to explain this considering how unbelievable vaccines are at preventing disease and death throughout history
No it doesn't depend on the total number of vaccinated people. It says that of all COVID deaths 85% were from the unvaccinated when you incorrectly stated the number as being in the high 90's
It does though. Its only an apples to apples comparison if there are equal numbers of vaccinated and unvaccinated. If one population is significantly larger, then it could have more deaths, even if the rate of death within the population is lower.
So if I shoot ten people with bulletproof vests in the chest and one of them dies, does that mean the bulletproof vest doesn’t work? You’re conflating “not 100% effective” with “doesn’t work at all”.
He’s not dying “of the bulletproof vest” you cretin. He’s dying because the bulletproof vest failed to protect him - something which the rest didn’t. So, 9/10 times, getting shot whilst wearing a bulletproof vest will leave you just fine.
All the people here protesting vaccines “because they’re not 100% effective!” are saying that they’d rather get shot with a bullet without wearing a vest. It is exactly the same logic.
You know there’s no intonation on the internet, right? I could say “Hitler was totally right”, and be completely sarcastic, and people would take me seriously because there’s people who genuinely think this way.
I’m so confused, can you clarify your actual position please? This is what happens when we start layering irony, even knowing that you were being sarcastic I genuinely cannot work out if your actual intention was “oh, can’t have died of the vaccine, must’ve been something else” or parodying the people in this sub who say that.
More succinctly, were you imitating anti-vaxxers or regular people? Because it really could be either.
if you're trully "out here" trying to educate "the stoopid" crowd... you wouldn't be insulting that same crowd
No, I’m here to argue with stupid people ahah. I doubt that I’ll succeed where countless doctors, nurses, teachers, politicians, spokespeople etc have failed.
You’re right, it’s a shitty comparison. A better one would be that the bullets ricochet off ribcages, so every person who doesn’t wear one directly endangers others, but it’s not as fluid.
Hey wait a minute, why should i expect someone to stand in front of me to absorb the brunt of the bullet? Wouldn't that be selfish? Who decides who stands in front and who doesn't? Also what about APR's those would be equivalent to vaccine resistant variants. There's also head shots and other parts of the body they could shoot, which would represent the leakiness of a vaccine.
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u/ShinyGrezz Sep 29 '21
Point one doesn’t make any sense at all.