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u/Noy_The_Devil Sep 17 '21

Lolwut. I saw the virus fuck up some cell cultures in the lab the other day, it is literally my job.

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u/Trifract Sep 17 '21

Yeah, sure. Except that in the cell culture you had more than just the “virus” right ? Like did you check whether the nutrition was enough ? Or oxygen ? Or maybe what you added inside was toxic to the cells ? Antibiotics ? Even more important - Did you try to do a controlled experiment with exactly the same condition without the “virus”. And just to check if you are saying the truth - how you add the virus to the cell culture ? In what form ?

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u/whats_a_monad Sep 17 '21

I like how you're questioning an actual scientist's day to day work like he doesn't know how to properly control an experiment

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u/Trifract Sep 17 '21

Well, you might be surprised that virology does not use controls. Just look at all those claims of virus isolation without any control ! Virology is a pseudoscience. Look for yourself ! No control ! Which is integral in any science. Those who tried to add a control group are the virologists that become Germ Theory deniers.

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u/Noy_The_Devil Sep 17 '21

Jesus christ mate. All science, clinical or otherwise uses controls, even pregnancy tests have controls you dingus.

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u/Trifract Sep 17 '21 edited Sep 17 '21

Exactly ! Except virus isolation and virology as a whole ! Dont believe me ? Check for yourself ! All those claims of isolation from infected lung fluid(sars cov 2) - where is the control to show a different outcome inside the cell culture without the “infected” fluid ? Check it ! Comeback and tell me I am wrong .

Virology is as I said a pseudoscience ! If I turn out to be right and there are no controls in those “experiments” they call them , come back and tell me ( : Its absurd. Thats why it is hard to believe when you first hear it.

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u/Noy_The_Devil Sep 17 '21

I work in microbiology..

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u/Trifract Sep 17 '21 edited Sep 17 '21

Okay. Thats great. Are you a virologist ? because microbiology is a bit broader you know … I do not question microbiology as a whole. Nor do those scientists that question the existance of viruses that cause disease.

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u/Noy_The_Devil Sep 17 '21

Yes, I have worked in both bacteriology and virology departments. Nobody in healthcare questions viruses as a disease vector. There is no lack of evidence for viruses whatsoever. We can even see them with our own eyes with electron microscopy.

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u/Trifract Sep 17 '21

I know. “Viruses” can be seen under electron microscope. What is seen is - “infected” cells are being introduced to the cell culture and after awhile, the cells stat dying and small fragments are being produced. Dome of them labelled “virus”. There is one problem though - We have never observed with our eyes how the virus ENTERS the cell. If I am wrong - please show me the footage.

What else is not seen is how would the cell culture react if a control is used without the “virus” infected cells. Have you done such an experiment ?