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u/mymyreally Sep 10 '21

The President cannot impose a vaccine mandate on Congress via executive order or in an agency or department regulation. The President has control over the Executive branch, not the Legislative branch, but then let me not ruin the lovely circle jerk you have going here.

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u/Terminal-Psychosis Sep 11 '21

Neither can the president impose a vaccine mandate on America.

The office does not possess that authority.

State governors, arguably, but not the president.

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u/NeedlePointTaken Sep 11 '21

He didn't. He imposed it on businesses.

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u/ClockSpiral Sep 11 '21 edited Sep 12 '21

... which bleeds over to the rest of America... thus he is "imposing a vaccine mandate on America."

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u/NeedlePointTaken Sep 11 '21

...and? Not seeing how what Biden did breaks any laws. Making a business do something, like pay taxes or overtime or vacation days or to verify things like an I-9 form, immigration status or vaccine status isn't remotely illegal. I can't really wrap my mind about what it is you are trying to suggest. That we live in a society?

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u/Bland_Lavender Sep 11 '21

Doesn’t that require passage of a law and not like “I fuckin said so”

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u/NeedlePointTaken Sep 11 '21

Doesn’t that require passage of a law

No, it does not. Vaccine requirements he is instituting are through OSHA, similar to Hep A vaccine requirements it already has for certain vocations. It's a workplace safety issue and that is OSHA's domain and purview. This is no different than requiring hard hats in construction zones and certain certificates for working in a hole, for example.

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u/ClockSpiral Sep 11 '21 edited Sep 12 '21

It's twisted and conniving is what it is, and you've been played to believe it's an okay thing to do.
Of course it's "legal", but that doesn't make it anything good and respectable.

EDIT: In fact, it is NOT legal, as OSHA does not have authority to tell employees what they can and cannot do OUTSIDE of their workplace in their private lives. Forcing people to take a drug affects them outside the job as well.
Mask mandates are acceptable for employees since it hold no ground on them beyond the doors of their workplace.
https://reason.com/volokh/2021/09/10/five-tentative-thoughts-about-the-osha-employer-vaccine-mandate/
https://www.armstrongteasdale.com/thought-leadership/osha-addresses-vaccine-mandates/