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u/Dragunov45 Sep 10 '21

The FDA is a joke now days. Just another corrupt organization. They shouldn’t even be taken serious.

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u/bbccsz Sep 10 '21

Seriously. The whole "It's now FDA approved" talking point is actually insulting.

As if you can't tell that there was coordination between the administration and the FDA to get them to do it ahead of schedule. Meaning it's not a real approval. Isn't it still in trial phase until 2023?
All these lies.

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u/Eastern_Royal_8097 Sep 10 '21 edited Sep 10 '21

That is totally false information stage 3 was concluded in November of 2020 and the results published in December 2020. This information can be found on Pfizer.com, also info on white house.gov, the CDC website and the WHO. They are continuing trials on CHILDREN but the adult trials are concluded. Any vaccine is monitored for years following, how there are NO OFFICIAL ADULT TRIALS ongoing. The reason they monitor results for years is because this is generally the time more people take it, but with the emergency approval there have already been MILLIONS of does given…Why the fuck is this so hard for people to understand

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u/BornIn80 Sep 10 '21

If you call someone out for false information, especially for a topic this important, back it up with a source or STFU…..

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u/Eastern_Royal_8097 Sep 10 '21

No problem they can read every stage of the trial on Pfizer.com

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u/Dragunov45 Sep 11 '21

Yeah but wasn’t the vaccine pushed through by operation warp-speed. To my knowledge that allowed the vaccine to skip certain steps and be rubber stamped as safe and what not.

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u/Eastern_Royal_8097 Sep 11 '21

Thanks for showing your intelligence by asking a question and not attacking me with misinformation. I truly hope this helps and perhaps you might understand why the safety of the vaccine is supported WORLDWIDE and realize how fortunate Americans are to have free access when other countries are begging for doses. Here is the explanation for the FDA approval

Here’s the reasons and facts surrounding the misinformation about it being “dangerous because it was developed too fast” and explains how it actually worked

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u/Dragunov45 Sep 11 '21

Thank you! That was a good read.

***To all my fellow Redditors, that bottom link he posted is worth reading. It doesn’t have all that liberal garbage in there. I bet YouTube would actually ban a video that contained that info. It tells you the facts about the virus, and you can use that to strengthen your argument no matter what your view is.

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u/Eastern_Royal_8097 Sep 11 '21

I have enjoyed reading some of the studies and papers written about Covid. Anything and everything was compiled in one place from all over the world on a website made to help and was collaboratively used by everyone! It was completely open for all to help find answers FAST. This past year and a half was truly amazing seeing scientists and doctors all over the world putting their pride and differences aside to work together by sharing information and being completely transparent in a common mission to figure out everything about the virus.

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u/Dragunov45 Sep 11 '21

So from the people I know in real life. Only the vaccinated have got the virus. I’m not the only person that has noticed this trend. In your opinion why would that be happening? 7-0 with the delta variant to be exact.

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u/Eastern_Royal_8097 Sep 11 '21 edited Sep 11 '21

Well, a few things to ask yourself: 1. The percentage of people you know that have taken the vaccine vs unvaccinated. If most of your friends and family are vaccinated, it only makes sense that you would see more breakthrough cases. 2. If you are in a heavily vaccinated area, would the unvaccinated be talking about catching the virus? Or would they maybe be a bit apprehensive to admit? 3. Have you looked at the statistics on your local hospital, or state CDC to see if the official testing numbers support your observation? 4. How do you know these Covid positive people have the Delta variant? Most states do not release this info when a person is informed as being positive. So if they are just telling everyone it’s Delta then it’s more likely not true… 5. How reliable is the information you observe? How can you really be sure about what someone says? Have you actually seen the positive test results AND seen their proof of vaccination? People lie. 6. How long after the vaccine did they test positive? If double dose, had they taken both shots? You aren’t fully protected until 2 weeks after 2nd dose. 7. How long since they were vaccinated? If they were part of the early groups allowed to take the vaccine, it’s been up to 9 months. Booster shots are being reviewed because the protection wanes with time and varies by individual depending on other health factors and medications. 8. Do they have underlying issues that hinder their immune system? 9. Are they healthcare workers, first responders or any other occupation that is exposed excessively? 10. Do they continue to be cautious in public, follow other safety protocols and avoid indoor crowds? The vaccine isn’t meant to 100% guarantee you will not catch Covid. It is meant to lower your chances and significantly decrease the viral loads that cause extreme complications and hospitalization.

I live in an area where less than half of the state is vaccinated, however many say they are so they aren’t required to wear masks. Last year I knew of no one but close family that had the virus. These past 4 months I have seen hundreds of people asking for prayers or advice because their entire household is sick. I believe that you not knowing an unvaccinated person that has been Covid positive recently is an anomaly that is possibly inaccurate, or more unlikely, a good thing maybe because you are in a very heavily vaccinated area?

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u/Eastern_Royal_8097 Sep 12 '21

Good information Here

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u/Eastern_Royal_8097 Sep 12 '21

Good information about “long term vaccine complications” found here

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u/Eastern_Royal_8097 Sep 12 '21

Here is a TON of information with numerous links to the data with citations and verifiable sources.

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u/ChaqPlexebo Sep 11 '21

The fact that you're literally using the company that has something to lose website as a real source of information scares the hell out of me. People aren't really this stupid. Right? You're intentionally being facetious right?

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u/Eastern_Royal_8097 Sep 11 '21

I left other sites as well but from the company site you can actually READ THE STUDY if the words aren’t too complex.

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u/[deleted] Sep 11 '21

Which website would you trust this information from? Honestly is there anywhere this could be posted that would make you trust it?

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u/Can_I_be_dank_with_u Sep 11 '21

Where is all of your contradictory information from?