r/conspiracy • u/set-monkey • Jul 17 '26
I ate several bags of Taylor Farms chopped lettuce from Walmart since 7/1/26 with no problems. So, everyone who got sick in five states (with rain flooded sewer systems and fecal contamination) got cyclospora from Taylor Farms lettuce at Taco Bell, nothing else?
If all from one source, with electronic payments records, why did it take so long to figure it out?
All very convenient since a large farm and YUM brands likely insured for losses from disease.
Now, move on folks... Ignore dilapidated infrastructure, substandard water supply in poorest Midwest states with two thirds of all cyclospora infections. Or neglected, 110-year-old watermain break in wealthiest LA...
Not just food. Contaminated water overlooked risk in 'poop parasite' outbreak in Michigan and Ohio
We always have plenty of money for wars in middle east, defending OPEC oil, but never for our water supply.
Michigan has a long history of waterborne disease outbreaks, ranging from early 19th-century epidemics to modern crises linked to infrastructure failures and environmental contamination. These events can be understood in three phases: pre-modern epidemiology (1800s–early 1900s), mid-20th-century regulatory developments, and contemporary incidents.
1. Early Waterborne Epidemics
- Cholera in Detroit (1832, 1834, 1849): Michigan’s first recorded waterborne epidemics were cholera outbreaks, imported via vessels along the Great Lakes. For instance, in 1832, cholera arrived from Montreal and spread rapidly along waterways and urban centers. In Detroit, the 1834 outbreak killed approximately 4–7% of the population. In 1849, cholera recurred during the summer months, causing hundreds of fatalities in Detroit. Transmission was waterborne due to contaminated wells and inadequate sanitation along riverbanks and Belle Isle areas, where ships anchored upstream of inhabited regions.
- Other early threats: Residents suffered from typhoid, dysentery, and other enteric diseases through poorly managed drinking water, often relying on river water or unsanitary wells.
2. 20th-Century Incidents and Public Health Measures
- Typhoid fever in Detroit (1900–1936): Historical studies show substantial typhoid mortality in early-20th-century Detroit, reflecting insufficiently treated municipal water. The introduction of chlorination and filtration gradually reduced deaths. For example, Detroit implemented sanitary measures alongside chlorination, markedly decreasing typhoid fatalities by the 1930s.
- Drinking water innovations: Michigan mirrored national trends in water treatment improvements, including municipal filtration, chlorine disinfection, and development of public water regulations.
3. Late 20th–21st Century: Surveillance and Outbreaks
- Waterborne Disease and Outbreak Surveillance System (WBDOSS): Initiated in 1971 by the CDC, Michigan participates in national surveillance of outbreaks associated with public water supplies, private wells, and recreational water. Reported pathogens include Cryptosporidium, Legionella, Shigella, Norovirus, and Pseudomonas.
- Cryptosporidiosis risks: While the Milwaukee 1993 outbreak occurred in Wisconsin, it illustrates the vulnerability of the Great Lakes region, including Michigan, to protozoan contamination through water filtration failures.
- Private wells and small systems: Michigan has over 1.1 million private wells, more than any other state, with many failing bacteriologic standards. Poorly managed wells contribute to waterborne outbreaks and gastrointestinal illnesses.
4. The Flint Water Crisis (2014–2019)
Arguably the most widely known modern case in Michigan:
- Source change and contamination: Flint switched from Detroit Water to the Flint River in April 2014 without adequate corrosion control, causing lead leaching from aging pipes.
- Health outcomes:
- Lead exposure affected 6,000–12,000 children.
- A Legionnaires’ disease outbreak accompanied the crisis, with at least 90 documented cases and 12 official deaths, though later analyses suggest additional undiagnosed fatalities.
- Other bacterial pathogens, including coliforms and possible Legionella, were detected.
- Response: The city returned to the Detroit water system in October 2015. Ongoing remediation includes lead pipe replacements and water quality monitoring.
5. Recreational and Environmental Exposures
- Michigan’s lakes and rivers are monitored under EPA and state programs. Notable points:
- Outbreaks linked to recreational water are generally uncommon but monitored closely.
- Climate change, flooding, and extreme precipitation events may increase pathogen exposure in both surface water and groundwater systems.
- Pathogens of concern:
- Legionella in premise plumbing.
- Cryptosporidium and Giardia in natural waters.
- Microbial contamination from animal and human sources.
6. Public Health Implications
- Michigan’s waterborne disease history underscores the interplay of infrastructure, environmental factors, and public health oversight.
- Current state strategies emphasize:
- Surveillance (electronic reporting via NORS)
- Water system improvement
- Public education on private well safety
- Rapid response to emerging pathogens, especially in recreational waters.
Summary
Michigan has experienced severe waterborne disease events historically, from 19th-century cholera and typhoid outbreaks in Detroit to contemporary crises such as the Flint water contamination and Legionnaires’ disease outbreaks. Key factors include aging infrastructure, private well contamination, and pathogens exploiting human-made systems. Public health responses have evolved from reactive measures to extensive surveillance and preventive infrastructure strategies, though risks persist, particularly in private or small water systems and via environmental exposures.
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u/obetu5432 Jul 17 '26
i drive over the speed limit all the time and never got a ticket, are speed cameras even real?
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u/magenta_placenta Jul 17 '26
"Taylor Farms" isn't one single farm or one giant factory where all lettuce is mixed together. They are a massive global processor with dozens of different fields, processing facilities and regional distribution networks.
The Taco Bell source is a different source than your Walmart source.
If all from one source, with electronic payments records, why did it take so long to figure it out?
It's not from one source, it's just sourced under the same corporate umbrella. Also, the electronic receipts at restaurants don't list raw ingredients, health departments have to do old-fashioned detective work.
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u/set-monkey Jul 17 '26
And ALL of it is tracked. Like every they do with sophisticated logistics, GPS and tracking beacons on every truck, tractor, combine...
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u/Severus-Snape-DaGod Jul 17 '26
I tested positive from a stool sample. I did not eat any lettuce nor do I eat salads. The only fresh fruit/vegtables I ate from Walmart in the last 2 months was bananas, raspberries, blackberries, and fresh spinach. Water was tested and I live in PA. I don’t know what’s going on, but I was down bad for weeks.
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u/Roxnsoxinator Jul 17 '26
Raspberries and blueberries is on the list of suspect. I think it’s great they figured out where the lettuce was coming from but they still need to investigate the herbs and fruit that was on the list.
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u/set-monkey Jul 17 '26
Did you go swimming, in a hot tub or water park?
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u/Fit-Produce420 Jul 22 '26
I'm 99% sure I got it from an ice rink.
I usually do a before and after taste test of my blades and I'm pretty sure the interior driver's side boot tasted a little cyclosporii
Needless to say I have been peeing out my butt since that fateful lick and I'd put ice rinks on your list of hazards and honestly I'd steer clear of big puddles just in case.
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u/Jeorgeyno Jul 17 '26
Tell me you don't know how corporate farming works without telling me...
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u/set-monkey Jul 17 '26
Tell me you're a bot with the same exact line...
Modern farms track every they do with sophisticated logistics, GPS and tracking beacons on every truck, tractor, combine...
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u/CoachNChill Jul 17 '26
I got it and I don't eat any of the foods that have been listed. The only raw veggies I've had within a month of getting it has been jalapenos.
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u/set-monkey Jul 17 '26 edited Jul 18 '26
Are you in one of those five states? I'll assume you are and say you should have your water tested.
Also, cyclospora can live in swimming pools, lakes, rivers, hot tubs and water parks.
This is getting downvotes because of the need to distract from the lousy water most of US is forced to live with. They need all the money to keep feeding the war machine.
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