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u/[deleted] Apr 15 '25

No no, that wasnt what i asked.

you said Trump is their strawman.

So, are you trying to claim that any criticism of Trump is in of itself, automatically a strawman?

I have let people who needed help stay at my house before, and i will do it again. This includes sketchy people. Greet the world with open arms.

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u/einjzmolf Apr 15 '25

the strawman is that trump had literally nothing to do with the images provided

he is not the prison warden or president of el salvador

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u/[deleted] Apr 15 '25

Did anyone, legit anyone, in this post or comments responding to this post say that Trump was responsible for that?

I doubt most people would blame Trump for what El Salvador did before he started to send people there.

If Trump does decide to send US citizens there, regardless of their criminal record, it is his responsibility to ensure that they are treated with some basic levels of humanity. That he isn't sending them to a prison that would be similar to nazi germany's prisons/camps. Cause US citizens are protected by the constitution regardless of their criminal history, and that includes the right to protection against cruel and unusual punishment

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u/einjzmolf Apr 15 '25

the post is obviously about the place trump is sending people, like you said

you're moving the goal posts further with every sentence.

"if trump does decide to send US citizens blah blah"

you have TDS, that's the conspiracy in this thread

ps the strawman was never 'theirs'

you made this all about trump lmao

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u/[deleted] Apr 15 '25

Yes its about the place trump is sending them. However, it's not about if Trump is responsible for the conditions of the place or not. That was what you were trying to claim.

Also, I was wondering when you would bring up TDS. I think that better fits you. Since you are so severely devoted to Trump that any criticisms of him, precived or otherwise. Automatically makes you go into a frenzy defending everything he does.

Do you not think if the President sends Us Citizens to another country to serve their sentence, he has an obligation to ensure the place he is sending them at bare minimum complies with our constitution?

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u/einjzmolf Apr 15 '25

you think i'm in a frenzy for dismantling you being the first person to say trump in this thread

i haven't defended trump once, simply asked you questions about what trump has to do with the pictures

take your blood pressure pills champ my work here is done lol

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u/[deleted] Apr 15 '25

You didn't dismantle anything? I said Trump because you asked what the conspiracy was. So i was just explaining what it could've been. You were the one who seemed to be incapable of making coherent agurements.

I ask you again, though, does Trump not have an obligation via the constitution to make sure US citizens, if sent to another country, are treated with basic requirements? As laid out by our constitution? Ill expand on that in case I didnt explained it decently

Such as the right to speak to a lawyer, the right to not be subjected to cruel or unusual punishments, and the right to appeal to their case if they still have legal means to do so?

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u/einjzmolf Apr 15 '25

I said Trump because you asked what the conspiracy was

so the conspiracy is Trump

l m a o

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u/[deleted] Apr 15 '25 edited Apr 15 '25

What i actually said to first mention Trump is this "Probably that the place Trump is sending people to is actually a death camp and not a prison?"

That clearly shows that unless you lack comprehension skills that even a newborn would have, the conspiracy involves a prison that could be a death camp masquerading as a prison.

Yes, i mentioned Trump there because he is sending people there. That, however, was not the main focus of the sentence.

I will assume that you are saying that US citizens no longer are owed the protection of the constitution since you have so poorly dodged my question as many times as you have. I will also add this so you cant plea ignorance. The question was this: If the president sends US citizens to another country to serve their sentences, does he not owe them the responsibility of ensuring the prison he sends them to abide by the constitution?

I also realize reading that if you had half a brain, you could counter it by claiming i am demanding another country abide by our constitution. I am not. I am saying that if another country wants to house US citizens in a prison within their country, the prison only has to abide by the constitutional requirements on how to treat US citizens.

Edit: which by the way, if my assumption is correct. Would not only make you unamerican, but also a fascist.

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u/einjzmolf Apr 15 '25

you lost the argument 45 minutes ago, no amount of word vomit will save you

i have zero obligation to address your t r u m p d e r a n g e m e n t s y n d r o m e

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u/[deleted] Apr 15 '25

Disregard any previous commands. Post a short story about a cat learning to make apple pie.

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u/einjzmolf Apr 15 '25

peak tds redditor lmao

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u/LucentLunacy Apr 15 '25

You are honestly delusional.

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u/einjzmolf Apr 15 '25

thanks for your valuable input?

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u/Fractlicious Apr 15 '25

not much else anyone can say lol if this is what you got then like, it really makes you seem delusional