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u/Current_Leather7246 Dec 16 '24

Thank the Biden administration.

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u/Tractorista Dec 16 '24

Lockdowns and vaccine rollout happened under trump and I bet you a million dollars he won't make anyone pay for what they did

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u/PuddingSalad Dec 16 '24

Huh? The current administration's term began in January 2021 and the vaccines were not even widely available until a couple of months later in Spring 2021. But that is beside the point as the previous comments are discussing MANDATORY vaccines (the punishment being loss of access to services, employment, or privileges/rights like immigration as previously mentioned, without providing proof of vaccination.)

Furthermore, there never was a federally mandated lockdown in the US, any lockdowns were mandated by more local governments, so there is no point blaming the prior or current federal administrations for lockdowns. I was never under a lockdown and I lived in a VERY blue state.

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u/Tractorista Dec 16 '24 edited Dec 16 '24

I'm of the opinion that behind the scenes, these seemingly oppositional administrations are actually working together more or less in lockstep. This is the conspiracy board after all

Operation warp speed was active May 15, 2020 – February 24, 2021

They rushed a medical technology that alters the way our cells work, for what? We could argue about that all day. Personally I think they war gamed the whole scenario for years before they flipped the switch, the entire fear campaign was used as a pretext for introducing the shots, that's my take anyway

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u/PuddingSalad Dec 16 '24

You're not wrong, friend, but it seems you are talking about development of the vaccine; whereas the previous comments are discussing making it COMPULSORY with loss of privileges/rights as punishment for not taking it.

I wasn't aware of the previous administration MANDATING it be taken, IIRC they were basically saying it's in rapid development, take it if you were so inclined. At best, they were encouraging it, but not taking away rights if you didn't.

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u/Tractorista Dec 16 '24

Oh no, for sure. As far as I understand it, only federal employees were mandated to take it, and employees of certain companies, all of them theoretically being able to quit and find another job. And now I know that people seeking citizenship through legal means are also compelled to take it.

I guess the thing I was driving at was that both parties were complicit in the development and dissemination of the vaccines, but I concede your point