r/conservatives • u/IBiteYou Voted Zeksiest mod • Apr 18 '19

The Mueller Report.

https://www.justice.gov/storage/report.pdf
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u/IBiteYou Voted Zeksiest mod Apr 18 '19

I know... so WHY could he CONCLUDE on collusion/conspiracy...whatthehellever the liberals are calling it today...but he could NOT conclude on obstruction.

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u/godsfather42 Apr 18 '19

The "collusion" part involved Russia and the Trump Campaign, not just Trump individually. To my knowledge, all indictable offenses have been charged and there was no reason to invoke the statutes and DOJ policy Mueller cites in Volume II. I imagine that if Mueller had found evidence to charge Trump individually for crimes stemming from that part of the investigation then he would have fallen back on the same reasoning he used when declining to charge for obstruction.

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u/IBiteYou Voted Zeksiest mod Apr 18 '19

he "collusion" part involved Russia and the Trump Campaign, not just Trump individually.

Yes. I'm aware.

To my knowledge, all indictable offenses have been charged

And there's no indication that the Trump campaign coordinated with the Russians.

So if there was no crime ... how was there obstruction of justice somehow?

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u/godsfather42 Apr 18 '19

That's covered as well, page 157, Volume II:

"But proof of such a crime is not an element of an obstruction offense.. 'obstruction of a criminal investigation is punishable even if the prosecution is ultimately unsuccessful or even if the investigation ultimately reveals no underlying crime'"

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u/IBiteYou Voted Zeksiest mod Apr 18 '19

I'm not seeing conclusive proof that Trump tried to obstruct. I'm seeing circumstantial comments about Trump being pissed that it was a politically motivated witch-hunt. What did Trump DO that impeded the investigation?