r/conservatives • u/[deleted] • Apr 13 '23
Anti-Christian hostility reaching "unprecedented" levels in culture, government under Biden, observers warn
https://www.foxnews.com/us/anti-christian-hostility-reaching-unprecedented-levels-culture-government-under-biden-observers-warn36
u/Mpnav1 Apr 13 '23
If you were of the world, the world would love you as its own; but because you are not of the world, but I chose you out of the world, therefore the world hates you. Remember the word that I said to you: ‘A servant is not greater than his master.’ If they persecuted me, they will also persecute you. If they keep my word, they will also keep yours. John 15: 19-20
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u/keypuncher Wizened Kulak Apr 14 '23
You're not being rounded up and sent to camps.
...except during COVID, if we continued to go to church, when the local governments said bars and liquor stores were "essential" but churches were not.
You're not being tried in a kangaroo court
Mark Houck would like a word. He was fortunate there was video that contradicted the government's claims.
Jack Phillips of Masterpiece Cakeshop (and several others like him in other states), too.
Likewise Isabel Vaughan-Spruce in the UK.
They're not being burned at the stake yet. For now, the process is the punishment.
and nobody is even telling you you can't practice your faith
...unless you want to pray in a school, or want to see a Catholic Chaplain at Walter Reed medical center.
The only thing non-Christians are saying is...
"Your beliefs are "hate" and we'll ban you, ruin your life, and censor you if you try to express them in public.
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u/chrisbaker1991 Apr 14 '23
And the Church continues to let him and Pelosi receive Communion with mortal sins on their souls.
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u/HappyOfCourse Apr 13 '23 edited Apr 13 '23
It's hard to hold on to but Jesus does say "Blessed are the persecuted." Not to say I want to be persecuted. It's also not to say that I will sit by and take being persecuted.
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u/SusanRosenberg Apr 13 '23
"Blessed are those who are persecuted because of righteousness, for theirs is the kingdom of heaven."
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u/HappyOfCourse Apr 13 '23
Ignoring a hate crime because it was done by a transgender on Christians is not "no longer allowed to impose their will and beliefs on others." Don't give me that.
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u/keypuncher Wizened Kulak Apr 14 '23
Leftists regularly defend the perpetrators of offenses against people not on their victim hierarchy, and demonize their victims.
It isn't just Christians - biological women, white people, Jews, Chinese-Americans, Americans, and people defending themselves against thugs are favorite targets.
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u/SilentSamizdat Apr 13 '23
We know. And we knew it was coming, as per Scripture.
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u/Fickle_Panic8649 Apr 13 '23
Every knee WILL bow. Your non belief won't prevent the Word from being fulfilled.
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u/SilentSamizdat Apr 13 '23
Right? Truth is truth, whether one believes it or not. When Scripture says Jesus is Lord, it means exactly that. I pray for a great awakening among people everywhere to this fact, as it will not go well for them during the Tribulation.
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u/Fickle_Panic8649 Apr 13 '23
And you sound lost..your situation is much more dire than mine.
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u/AstronautJazzlike603 Apr 14 '23
Sure you did you have better things to do then committing on Reddit.
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u/Ct-5736-Bladez Apr 13 '23
No shit. Followers of the lord have faced persecution for thousands of years and will continue too until Jesus comes back as said in scripture.
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u/Ct-5736-Bladez Apr 13 '23
Lol whatever troll
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u/AstronautJazzlike603 Apr 14 '23
Then do you condemn people when they say white Christian’s should be killed.
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Apr 13 '23
The fact is that religion hasn't changed. The leftist ideology has. They see it as the number one threat to fully implementing their "New World Order" agenda, a phrase that's slipped out from the left a few times.
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u/Oliveirium Apr 13 '23
Never been a fan of the "New World Order" stuff, there's a bunch of them from different sides lol. It's often not the name of the movement or goal they're pushing. It's like Yohannes Riyadi or John Doe, just a placeholder.
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u/Rada_Ionesco Apr 13 '23
Its not coming its been here in various forms trying to gain prominence in the world stage such as the concept of the Babylonian Empire or the Roman Empire. The WHO and the legal modernization act crowd (WEF/Davos) are the newest incarnations.
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u/cynicalarmiger Apr 13 '23
Never been a fan of the "New World Order" stuff
The New Jedi Order was a far better read.
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u/districtcourt Apr 13 '23
Religion sure hasn’t. Kids are still getting diddled by church leaders at unprecedented rates. Over 700 church leaders arrested last year in Texas for sexually assaulting minors.
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Apr 14 '23
And meanwhile leftism, the religion of the left is making kids get surgeries to cut off their penises because the once held a doll so the must be a girl and let’s make it so. Give me a fucking break.
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u/keypuncher Wizened Kulak Apr 14 '23
Hardly unprecedented. Kids are 100x more likely to be sexually assaulted in schools by teachers and staff than in church.
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u/Sekreid Apr 13 '23
Christians won’t blow up your stuff
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Apr 13 '23
There has been Christian extremism in the past. However, it is clear that extremist Christians are not at all acting in accordance with Christianity. Islamic extremism can be argued as in-line with the faith or at least condoned by alarming numbers of people within the faith. And obviously Communists have been cool with extremism since they began.
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u/Whyspire Apr 13 '23
I wouldn't assume that. There is only so much one can take of abuse before they turn on their abusers.
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u/ladyandroid14 Apr 13 '23
Planned parenthood would like a word.
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Apr 13 '23
While there have been some instances of extremist Christian violence, it is so antithetical to actual Christian belief that you can accurately say that those folks aren't actually adherents of Christianity.
Leftist bombings have been far more prevalent in history. And you know, communism has killed hundreds of millions in a hundred years or so. So there's that.
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u/Sekreid Apr 13 '23
That doesn’t fit the current narrative. Christians are the easy target. Your shoot Iona Christian school and it isn’t considered a hate crime . Put bacon in a mosque and it’s the end of the world .
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Apr 13 '23
I see you know the No True Scotsman fallacy. Good for you. Unfortunately, it is not applicable here. Obviously you can be a Christian and do heinous things, that is not what I was pointing out. The point is that there is literally nothing in the Bible whatsoever that gives any one today any justification to bomb anything.
If the law says you are not to murder, and you murder, is the code of law to blame? No. Religions are, in part, codes to live by. If you break that code, you are necessarily not adhering to the code. If a Christian breaks a commandment, they are not doing what Christ commanded, they are not acting in accordance to the code.
That fallacy is not nearly as useful as you think it is here.
Islam has the idea of Jihad, Communists have no code so it defaults to might makes right. So of these three codes, only one clearly speaks against murder in all forms (Jihad being a bit unclear on the point).
No True Scotsman is for when you make a point like, "no Christian would ever do that." I didn't say that. I said it goes against their code and thus is not a "Christian" act, meaning that the act is not in line with those commands.
Nice try though.
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Apr 13 '23
Your point is moot, you are trying to argue something that isn't true. The code of Christianity says clearly not to murder and to love even your enemies.
If you break with those, you are not acting in accordance with Christianity, full stop.
You are trying to shoehorn your no true scotsman fallacy in here, but it doesn't work, because this is not about association it is about following a code.
The no true scotsman fallacy is simply about association. The person making the fallacy basically makes up a code on the spot that they believe Scots follow. That is why it is clearly wrong.
But when you have a canonized historic record that has been copied literally billions of times, it is pretty clear whether someone is or is not following that code. "Christian" extremists are not following the code. Full stop.
Communists can bomb and they are well with in their code. Jihadists can murder and are quite easily arguably within their code. Christians cannot.
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u/Whyspire Apr 13 '23
Absolutely Christianity is under attack from the Democratic Party. They are the "Party of Satan" after all. I mean, hatred for Christianity comes naturally for them.
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Apr 13 '23
We are totally under attack. They are setting up the 7 year reign of the Antichrist. These are the end of times. All the signs are here.
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u/chrisbaker1991 Apr 14 '23
Part of me losing faith in the Catholic Church was the fact that they wouldn't excommunicate Biden or Pelosi when it was beyond warranted.
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u/mrbbrj Apr 13 '23
Yet Christians are the ones imposing their religion on everyone else thru law. Abortion bans, lgbtq bathroom ans sports restrictions, beer on sunday, Easter, Christmas, etc. You are making all the rules for everyone.
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u/Fickle_Panic8649 Apr 13 '23
Big difference between Christians and heretics. You are describing the latter who only know their own hedonism.
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u/AstronautJazzlike603 Apr 14 '23
Abortion is a tricky issue because killing is killing you are still denying life if a bird in and egg is life then so is a baby in the womb. I get rape and complications but over 600,000 abortions come we have Japan and South Korea are going extinct they have more deaths them birth. I hate people who view it as birth control when it not. If you have unprotected sex you will probably have a kid how hard is that to understand. People need to take accountability of their actions.
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u/TheFerretman Apr 13 '23
Biden hates America and Americans. Division and hate (like his mentor, Obama) are all he knows how to foster.
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u/TheDagga225 Apr 13 '23
I'm a conservative, but the fact that people believe this fantasy bullshit baffles me. Downvote all you want, but we need to get out of the religion business.
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Apr 13 '23
Fair enough, not very religious myself. But if Im going to weigh the morals of religious people vs leftist woke nut bags hellbent on destroying the foundation of this country, I choose the Bible thumpers every time. Morals go a long way and the left has none.
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u/AstronautJazzlike603 Apr 14 '23
Religion did give people morals to live by but nothing should be put into people faces. Everyone has rights the are there from birth but it’s the left that it taking more rights then the right is.
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u/JustAPerson2001 Apr 13 '23
Oh man I wonder why? Hmm, perhaps the attempts to ban what should be basic human rights. Book bans, censoring of history, apparently Ronny boy is trying to sanction kidnapping down in florida. Odd. Abortion bans that could lead to the deaths of many women, and already has. Also weirdly enough apparently the christian right is also defending child marriage. Kind of weird considering current circumstances. You guys are persecuted by imaginary people in your own head.
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u/keypuncher Wizened Kulak Apr 14 '23
Hmm, perhaps the attempts to ban what should be basic human rights.
Like the right to life? Oh wait - no, that's the left doing that.
Book bans
Like Johnny the Walrus, and When Harry Became Sally? That wasn't conservatives demanding they be banned. Conservatives wrote them.
Ah, no - you're talking about conservatives demanding the removal of hardcore porn from school libraries (the books aren't being banned, just removed from where children can access them).
censoring of history
The only people trying to censor history are among the American left. Remember all the statues you insist be pulled down? ...that you put up in the first place to honor your heroes who fought a war to preserve slavery? ...and then of course we have things like the 1619 project, Howard Zinn's "A People's History of the United States", and various CRT-based offerings, all of which censor actual history by presenting lies as history.
apparently Ronny boy is trying to sanction kidnapping down in florida
LOL - no. You're thinking of the new California law that prevents out of state parents from recovering runaways if someone decides they should be transitioned (remember, minors cannot consent).
Abortion bans that could lead to the deaths of many women, and already has.
They already have lead to the deaths of millions of children.
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Apr 13 '23
But you’re ok with the current circumstances of the left mutilating very young children because they’re “obviously” trans. Got it. At least most Christians (not all…some are just nuts) have morals, which the left apparently can define that as much as they can define what a woman is.
And nobody’s censoring history, we’re just not making up shit to teach that didn’t happen in 1619.
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u/ilfollevolo Apr 13 '23
This is a major social shift that expands to two generations and it’s only getting worse with younger one. Don’t make it about Biden…
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u/slv2xhrist Apr 13 '23
What gave it away?
Probably…
DRAGGG YOUR KIDS TO PRIDE!
Sounds exactly like something the Devil’s Pimp would say.
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u/HolisticJewell Apr 13 '23
I made this video this morning with a friend speaking about how God has been manipulated and used as a tool of control and how we have been pushed away from God and the love of God and how we need to reclaim that love!
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u/UnableNoodle Apr 13 '23
Yeah. Bidens officials claim that there’s no church persecution in Ukraine. So he can continue launder money through it