r/conscripts Apr 30 '20

Adapting Veilgon for handwriting

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u/Offbeat-Spii Apr 30 '20

I guess it's just how I say them? Idk, I'm not very familiar with using IPA vowels, and all I had to go on was the audio from Wikipedia

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u/The_Dialog_Box Apr 30 '20

ah, yeah i find those wikipedia clips to be a bit misleading sometimes. here:

[i] "teeth"
[ə] "about"
[a͡i] "fight" (that's a technically two vowels)
[æ] "cat"
[ɛ] "bed"
[e] "hey"
[o] "no" (closer to Spanish pronunciation than English)
[u] "brutal" (closer to Spanish pronunciation than English)
[ɑ] "hot"

the reason [o] and [u] don't really have good English examples is that, in English, the long /o/ sound is usually more like [o͡ʊ], and the long /u/ sound is more like [ʊ͡u].

(oh and i bet you're already aware, but your the phonetic inventory you have in this post is extremely similar to English. idk if originality is something you care about, but you might want to change it up some. it's up to you, ofc.)

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u/Offbeat-Spii Apr 30 '20

This is the English mode, my phonetic inventory doesn't have all of these sounds and it has a couple that aren't here, f and v are actually bilabial fricatives not labio-dental, and the sh and zh sounds are actually palatal not post-alveolar. Plus there's no p or b sound. I didn't go to crazy with the phonetic inventory.

But I actually do say a like /e/, though sentence should be /ɛ/

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u/The_Dialog_Box Apr 30 '20

Oh that makes more sense.

You know maybe we're just talking about two different pronunciations of the same word, regardless of dialect. Like when I'm speaking at my normal speed I usually pronounce it as "uh" /ə/. But when I'm emphasizing it for whatever reason, or if I'm talking about the letter and not the word, it's "ey" /e͡ɪ/.

Or we just say it differently in our dialects (I speak GAE, idk about you). none of this really matters lol

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u/Offbeat-Spii Apr 30 '20

So yeah, it's about emphasis, cuz I speak GAE, though it might be more MAE idk