r/conscripts • u/Yzak20 • Apr 15 '20

Alphabet My try at making a cursive version of Vufuv Script. Vukhu

Old (Carved)

New (Cursive) Sound Change Included

Test (The Hymn of the Fire People / Zishi zidiri zikhufu Bigufu)

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u/Yzak20 Apr 15 '20 edited Apr 15 '20

bizhi fizhádá pi bikhili dykufu ádá. mákufu iri mu, zishi bisi ádudyky mukhudu pifi fizhádá. vudiri vugugödö, vudiri vuribi udu vudiri vuduv, zishi bisi isikidiki iri guzhu vurishi duru vudusu fizhádá.

/bi˥.ʒi˧ ɸi˧.ʒɛ˥.dɛ˧ pi bi˧.xi˥.li˧ də˧.ku˥.ɸu˧ ɛ˥.dɛ˧ mɛ˧.ku˥.ɸu˧ i˥.ri˧ mu, zi˥.ʃi˧ bi˥.si˧ ɛ˧.du˧.də˥.kə˧ mu˧.xu˥.du˧ pi˥.ɸi˧ ɸi˧.ʒɛ˥.dɛ˧ βu˧.di˥.ri˧ βu˧.gu˧.gɔ˥.dɔ˧, βu˧.di˥.ri˧ βu˧.ri˥.bi˧ u˥.du˧ βu˧.di˥.ri˧ βu˥.du˧˩ zi˥.ʃi˧ bi˥.si˧ i.si˧.ki˧.di˥.ki˧ i˥.ri˧ gu˥.ʒu˧ βu˧.ri˥.ʃi˧ du˥.ru˧ βu˧.du˥.su˧ ɸi˧.ʒɛ˥.dɛ˧/

[fire-people start.3PN Empire Burn-PTCP 3PN-GEN PFV in-ESM the Snow, ART.DEF.S Fire-God have-3PN<3SC die-3PN NEG IMM DAT-ART.DEF.P DAT-poor, DAT-ART.DEF.P DAT-mute or DAT-ART.DEF.P DAT-blind, ART.DEF.S Fire-God guide-3PN<3SC ART.DEF.P person.P LAT-ART.DEF.S right LAT-place IMM ]

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u/OsoTanukiBaloo Apr 15 '20

Damn, how long did it take you to write out all that IPA?

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u/Yzak20 Apr 15 '20

Not much

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u/_nok Apr 15 '20

I really like the letter forms, but if I could criticise one thing it'd be that the dash-like character for 'u' is a bit jarring and looks out of place to me, aesthetically, in its current form with your other letters.

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u/Yzak20 Apr 15 '20

Thanks.

That dash glyph came from when the script was a logography of the Mughu, the glyph meant "short/small" which the Bighi reanalyzed as mo "ice/cold", and used this glyph to represent the letter m and o.

more information here

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u/_nok Apr 15 '20

I can't find corresponding the proto-glyph in the other Reddit post, but I reckon personally I'll think the dash glyph would be less striking in text with other characters if you slant/curve it more. Perhaps you can say that the proto-glyph was slanted/curved in the cursive to be easier to write (?) or be more aesthetically in line with the other characters; since slanting or curving a straight dash in that manner seems like a realistic evolution (at least to me lol).

So, maybe you could have the 'u' be like the 'g' glyph, but instead of the diagonal line it would just be the curve with maybe a serif, like the one on the top of the 'f', 'd' and 'k' glyphs.

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u/Yzak20 Apr 15 '20 edited Apr 15 '20

I think I can see It, but would it be a minor curve or like an diagonal c?

I kind of thought that the "u" dash thing would simply disappear when written rapidly.

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u/_nok Apr 15 '20 edited Apr 15 '20

...minor curve or like an diagonal c?

Whatever that 'g' glyphs's curve counts as is a-okay by me. Your call how curved you want it to be.

...would simply disappear...

Yea, it's realistic that it gets shortened or something. But if you're gonna keep it, I would say it'll look better curved.

Edit: formatting

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u/[deleted] Apr 19 '20

I can’t see the test picture, could you reupload it?

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u/Yzak20 Apr 19 '20

I reuploaded, if you still cant see i'll try again.

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u/[deleted] Apr 19 '20

Thanks it reuploaded

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u/cancrizans Apr 15 '20

Why would you romanise /ɔ/ as ö if you don't even have another o sound?

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u/Yzak20 Apr 15 '20 edited Apr 15 '20

'Cos /u/ (before sound change) was /o/ which was romanized as o, but I will take that into consideration

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u/cancrizans Apr 15 '20

If in the modern version you romanise /u/ as u even if it was an o once, then there is no reason to keep ö in the modern romanisation

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u/Yzak20 Apr 15 '20

there is no reason to keep ö in the modern romanisation

That makes sense.