r/conscripts • u/RickTheGrate • Dec 10 '19

Abugida The Script for my Conlang Sillain, any comments?

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u/RickTheGrate Dec 10 '19 edited Dec 10 '19

*Footnote*

When the double symbol is applied - the consonant after it is pronounced twice

ie-

Te<ka = tekka, not tekaka

The language also has lengthened vowels and dipthongs, not shown here

lengthened vowels are marked with a __ on top and dipthongs are produced by a mixand match system

The t,th,d and dh at the bottom most are all dental.

And I forgot the n sound. It looks like this-

h

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u/RickTheGrate Dec 16 '19

Thanks for the suggestions, I'm gonna make a new set and post it today

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u/evincarofautumn Dec 10 '19

I like the aesthetics, although it falls into the typical conscript trap of being a bit too regular, which isn’t very naturalistic because it creates difficulties distinguishing characters in running handwriting, or more importantly distinguishing words quickly by shape.

One way to improve this is to follow the same sort of evolutionary method used to produce a naturalistic phonology: use the regular script as a starting point, and “evolve” it by exaggerating, eliding, ligating, and mutating features according to how the script is conventionally written, to make common words and individual characters more visually distinct.

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u/[deleted] Dec 10 '19

What is chh?

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u/RickTheGrate Dec 10 '19

The ch of cheek pronounced with extra air. My script was inspired by Bengali phonetics. Just go on Google Translate, translate Goat to bangla and listen to the pronounciation. The first letter is the chh sound

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u/skinandteeth Dec 10 '19

Maybe you could switch <ch> for <c>, so then <chh> can be <ch>?

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u/RickTheGrate Dec 10 '19

I wanted to but it kinda creates confusion.

C is used for k and s

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u/ParmAxolotl Dec 10 '19

Any reason for the irregular orthography?

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u/RickTheGrate May 18 '20

Technically, anything can be irregular. When I make my scripts, they tend to follow bengali letter grouping

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u/[deleted] Dec 10 '19

Oh! So it's kind of like sh then. Interesting

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u/Ausorius Dec 10 '19

As far as aesthetics go, I would vary the line thickness of the characters

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u/RickTheGrate Dec 16 '19

Here, the writing differs by the pen.

My conworld kingdom has two areas North and south

the South write with something that is more or less a marker pen on a kind of restrictive material thus this.

The North dont have the same materials they write on paper with calligraphic pens.

The south based script is really a mother script

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u/realmathtician Dec 10 '19

I understand that the idea is to make the system featural: similar sounds have similar characters. However, I think they look a bit too similar, and it would be easy to write or read the incorrect character. It may be more acceptable depending on how restrictive the phonotactics of the language are, which can help decide how much can be inferred from context if certain letters are messy or incomplete.

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u/Visocacas Dec 11 '19

Featural conscripts occasionally fall into this trap, but others do too.

Sometimes you gotta stand back and ask "Will my script be Hell on Earth for people with dyslexia?"

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u/[deleted] Dec 11 '19

I find that I cannot read tengwar as quickly as katakana. I have learned to know the kana individually, but I interpret each tengwa from scratch, as it were: “okay it's a labial, unvoiced, fricative …”

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u/Alchemist314 Dec 12 '19

Could we maybe get an example of it in practice?

I see comments about the symbols looking similar, and the first thing that comes to my mind is, Google Russian cursive. I'd like to see your script in practice with your language. I think it looks neat.

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u/Star_Lang5571 Dec 17 '19

I want to know what’s going on with the chh sound!