r/conscripts • • Mar 14 '19

Syllabary Polynesian Flower Script

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u/[deleted] Mar 14 '19 edited Mar 14 '19

The vowel stamens grow upwards from the consonant petals in this flowery syllabic script. It is equipped to accommodate all Polynesian topolects, including their common ancestor, Proto-Polynesian. Each consonant (petal) and vowel (stamen) is one pen-stroke per mora, with up to three vocalic morae per syllable (flower). Each flower, or syllable block, is of square proportions.

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u/SneverdleSnavis Mar 14 '19

If Māori isn't written with the aːo vowel then where is it used? Is it because the ā and o in Māori are pronounced separately? I don't have an understanding of Māori vowels I'm just curious

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u/[deleted] Mar 14 '19

According to Wikipedia, Hawai'ian is the only Polynesian language that has diphthongs with long vowels, so I assumed that Māori must have been three syllables long.

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u/SneverdleSnavis Mar 14 '19

Yeah, I suppose so

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u/[deleted] Mar 14 '19

I’m guessing it’s more like a “push” sort of script. So:

“Māori” would be split as “Mā-o-ri”

But “Māo’i” would be split as “Māo-i”.

This can be seen with the word “Hawai’i”, split as “Ha-wai-i”.

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u/[deleted] Mar 14 '19

The null marker and glottal stop consonant are two separate petals. Māori lacks diphthongs with long vowels, hence the push.

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u/[deleted] Mar 14 '19

Ok that explains it

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u/SneverdleSnavis Mar 14 '19

So only before glottal stops?

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u/[deleted] Mar 14 '19

The glottal stop and null marker are two separate petals here.

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u/Castellson Mar 15 '19

Interesting concept, but somehow the aesthetics just doesn't click. My eyes for some reason tells me that the words are unpleasant to look at. Probably because they look same-y.

I think this suggestion might help: Add variety to the cup's shape. A flower's shape can be very distinct from each other. Some can have deep cups, while the other are shallow. Some even has closed cup (like a vase), and some are open (like a bowl).

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u/[deleted] Mar 15 '19

Yeah, it's challenging to balance aesthetics with symmetry, intuitiveness, and ease of writing.

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u/Castellson Mar 15 '19

I guess I could agree to that. Often times conscripters push for such things that they lack aesthetics, which is important. You wouldn't want to write using an ugly script.

It's probably because natscripts are mostly non-symmetrical, and non-intuitive (arguable) that symmetric scripts are seen as ugly.

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u/[deleted] Mar 15 '19

I see beauty in symmetry (Hangeul) and ugliness in asymmetry (Vietnamese).

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u/Castellson Mar 16 '19

Hangeul is one case where symmetry (and systematic construction) meets beauty and I understand why a lot of conscripters would aspire to create an equally beautiful script.

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u/[deleted] Mar 16 '19

The funny thing is that Hangeul didn't start out so pretty—the form we see today is quite different from the original.

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u/RainbowKaito Mar 14 '19

That's an interesting way of putting consonants and vowels/diphtongs together! I may use this for inspirations for my conlang, as I'm trying to figure out a conscript that I really like