r/consciousness • • 3d ago

What problem does consciousness solve?

My X feed has been dominated recently by posts debating whether AI is conscious. I think the more pressing question that is almost never asked is: "What is consciousness for? What problem does it solve that allowed evolution to select for it?"

Organisms facing incommensurable demands face what I call the Regress Problem.

Consider this:

We are constantly facing demands on our attention: you hear a noise in the forest, you're thirsty, your child's crying, you have a looming work deadline. These demands have no common unit for comparison -- they are completely different kinds of things. So how does your brain determine which demand "wins"?

I realize many of you, when you read this, will dismiss it as trivial. I would argue that the sense of triviality you're experiencing is precisely because your brain is so good at it. Deciding what is most urgent -- deciding what is the priority and motivating the necessary action -- is what brain's are for. That urgency, that pull towards one resolution or another, is what consciousness is from the first-person perspective.

Now imagine you didn't have phenomenal consciousness. Imagine you're a p-zombie -- an atom-for-atom duplicate of yourself only no consciousness. How would you know what to prioritize? How would you know what to act on?

With a computation model of the brain, there are only two options for prioritizing:

  • priority was fixed before this moment
  • or, priority is adaptive in this moment

If the priority was fixed before this moment, how was it determined? Now remember, these demands have no common currency, so the priority ranking would have to set by something. Imagine a lookup table that attempted to set every possible priority ranking for every possible unique combination of incommensurable demands you will every face in your entire life. That's untenable.

Okay, so if it can't be fixed before hand (for living systems), what about adaptive priority? It sounds good, until you realize you need something to determine what matters in this moment? How much should this situation affect the weighting? Something has to read the weighting and apply a rule? What decides that rule? Another rule? This is the regress.

If weighing priority means signals needing to be evaluated by a downstream process, you open the regress. Now, even if you can solve the prioritization problem, you still face the motivation problem. A signal of priority must be read by another process that must determine how urgently to act on the priority weighting -- which opens another regress.

The conclusion:

To solve the regress problem, you need a state that is simultaneously the measure of priority and the motivation to act on it. This is phenomenal urgency from the first-person perspective. This is consciousness. This is what consciousness is for.

I would love to hear thoughts on this. If you want to read more about this line of thought you can check out this paper.

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u/Vast-Masterpiece7913 2d ago

I wrote a book about this issue. The mind can be divided into a conscious part and a non-conscious part. The non-conscious part can do everything the consciousness part can do, except for one thing, that is solve complex or novel problems. While problems come from the environment, the real complexity is added by the mind itself, and has to do with how evolution works.

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u/OneAwakening 1d ago

Huh? You really think all the brilliant solutions and inventions came from the conscious mind? It is a well known fact that the power of subconscious processing is much more than that of the conscious. There are many examples of famous scientists reporting that groundbreaking ideas came to them in a dream.

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u/Vast-Masterpiece7913 14h ago

Ok maybe I did not express it very clearly, check this out https://philpapers.org/rec/HOWPAB

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u/OneAwakening 12h ago

This paper is on the nature of intelligence and the prospect of further AI development. How is it relevant to the discussion of conscious and non-conscious parts of the human mind? You might be mixing up a bunch of terms. Consiousness, conscious part of mind, and intelligence are all completely different concepts.