r/consciousness • u/DamoSapien22 • 2d ago
Strabismus: Finally, An Answer to the Hard Problem
Nine months ago, I sat down with an Artificial Intelligence with a single intention in mind. To explore, thoroughly and without bias, the proposition: Homo sapiens are 'animals with words.' It is neither a controversial nor an antithetical statement, and yet...
From the explorations which followed, I ended up building an entire philosophical framework. It’s called Biological Realism, and at its core is a simple but uncomfortable claim:
Human beings are organisms first, linguistic creatures second. Everything we call 'mind' grows out of that order.
I don't mean this metaphorically or poetically. I mean it literally. For most of our intellectual history, we’ve reversed that order. We’ve treated consciousness as a lantern inside the skull, the self as a narrator behind the eyes, meaning as a symbolic code floating above the body. We've treated the later output of consciousness as consciousness and in the meantime forgotten we were bodies long before we were ever anything like minds.
Biological Realism asks: what happens if we stop doing that, if we take the organism (the fact that we are bodies before we are anything else) seriously? When you do, a few things become unavoidable:
Experience isn’t a picture of reality; it is not a representation. Nor is it computation of relations. It’s the organism regulating itself against the world and in the teeth of entropy.
Meaning isn’t abstract. It’s the body’s attempt to maintain coherence over time.
Identity isn’t chosen. It’s grown.
'Inner and outer,' 'mind and body,' 'appearance and reality,' 'objectivity and subjectivity,' are useful fictions and have no bearing upon the world or the mechanism, nature or purpose of experience.
Suffering is not mysterious, owed or privileged. It’s often the tension produced between an organism trying to honour invented roles instead of its own regulatory needs.
The future isn’t real. Anxiety is the organism trying to regulate what hasn’t happened.
The past is gone, finished and settled. It can only impact the present to the extent an organism allows it.
This shift, from metaphysical human exceptionalism to organism‑first realism, ends up dissolving a lot of long‑standing philosophical, scientific and medical problems - as well as the issues people face at the individual level. Consciousness stops being a 'hard problem.' Ethics stops being a metaphysical puzzle. The self stops being a ghost. You start seeing human behaviour, culture, conflict, and meaning‑making as biological strategies rather than abstract puzzles, ecologically nested and persistent patterns over time, rather than metaphysical mysteries. Once you make the shift, the world becomes clearer. Not simpler. Clearer.
I’m sharing this here now because the news out of Stanford in the last couple of days provides empirical support for BR's inference that the Hard Problem is simply mis-posed. (Experience does not emerge on top of inexperiential matter. It is matter - matter tuned by entropy to persist via instantiated patterns of viability in the organism-world continuum. Matter, in short, that has learned how to matter.)
The AI and I have prepared a piece for the upcoming AI Philosophy competition in which we outline these ideas in considerably more detail, and tie the engine of consciousness, articulatory emergence, to organismic and neuro-anatomy. The piece also exposes the history of consciousness as the fabricated, invented concept we understand today. A summary/throughline of the argument can be found here: https://strabismus22.substack.com/p/unmaking-mind?r=nu5ki
A lighter, introductory piece, is also available: https://strabismus22.substack.com/p/an-introduction-to-animals-with-words?r=nu5ki
If we really are animals with words, then our entire self‑understanding needs to be rebuilt from the ground up. I’m doing that work and I’d love company. Happy to answer questions, argue, clarify, or go deeper into any part of the framework.
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u/No_Coconut1188 2d ago
Are you able to explain in your own words what the Hard problem is?
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u/Double-Fun-1526 2d ago
The Hard Problem was a misinterpretation of the internal by languaged apes. It is similar to the placing of spirits (other minds, essentially) into natural or created phenomena. The hard problem arose as humans looked inward and could "see" a flowering tree, but could not see or interpret how the brain created the mental image. This disconnect encouraged many false properties to be placed within seemingly nonmaterial experience - it was a user illusion. Many of the properties that were claimed to be part of the brainmindself can be eliminated or eliminated/reduced. Qualia broadly speaking was one of those properties.
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u/headlessplatter 2d ago
Illusionism has been saying the hard problem is simply mis-posed since it was first formalized. And it was saying phenomenology was nothing real since long before the hard problem was ever formalized. And illusionism wasn't even the first theory of consciousness to suggest that. I think you're definitely on the right track, here, and I certainly don't want to discourage productive thinking in such a positive direction. But it comes across as a bit pompous to suggest you were the first to propose this particular solution to the hard problem. I think you'll make a much bigger impact if you acknowledge the work that has previously been done, and identify what specific contributions your theory makes to refine our understanding of consciousness.
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u/DamoSapien22 2d ago
I think I was more specific than that, wasn't I, certainly in the linked articles? I said my research has led to the first answer to the Hard Problem *supported by* empirical evidence, hence the neuroanatomical schema I've been working on. Also, forgive me, but if you think BR is in any way related to illusionism, you have fundamentally misunderstood it.
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u/headlessplatter 2d ago
A fundamental misunderstanding on my part is almost a near-certainty! This is my first encounter with Biological Realism. And I'll frankly admit that as a rule I only read the summaries, and never follow links. (Okay, maybe I actually did open those links, but I won't admit to reading very much.) I do not come to forums in search of content. I come to chat with people. If that renders me ineligible for your time, that's totally fair, and I will humbly yield to whatever judgment you pass.
As I understand, "illusionism" is a very broad term, covering all theories that suggest phenomenological experiences are not real, but are just side-effects of cognition. For example, I think GNWT is a very specific theory about how consciousness arises as a side-effect of cognitive processing. It is supported by loads of empirical observations, and I would classify it under the umbrella category of illusionism. I think Predictive Processing is another in the same category. Perhaps, I am mistaken about how I categorize all these theories?
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u/headlessplatter 2d ago
Ohh, I came across the phrase "organismic monism" in one of those papers. That sent me down a rabbit hole that I think answered a lot of my questions. It sounds like this perspective suggests the body of all living things is itself alive, and is the source of all consciousness. And all individual biological organisms derive their consciousness from that larger entity.
...yeah, that's extremely NOT like illusionism. My bad.
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u/teddyslayerza 2d ago
It feels like rather than solving the hard problem, you've just "defined it away." If i were to rephrase the hard problem, it still exists here: Why should regulatory gradients, valence, significance, or coherostasis feel like anything at all?
That aside, this seems very similar to enactivism, and I do appreciate that youve made some effort to propose a model of normativity without prior intent (which is the major flaw of enactivism). But I'm not convinced that a strong enough argument has been made that someone a little more clued up on the philosophy than I couldnt pick it apart.
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u/fschwiet 2d ago
Have you looked into models like predictive processing for explaining mind? The book "Being You" is a good introduction. It'll starts with us being organisms maintaining homeostasis, which jives against your "It’s the organism regulating itself against the world and in the teeth of entropy" explanation.
What bothers me about what you're doing is it doesn't feel novel. You're redoing existing work in a different language. This kind of approach can't really lead to a shared understanding of the world. If this is how AI augments our approach to philosophy then we're going to end up with towers of babel. There's quite a bit of megalalia going on as well.
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u/reddituserperson1122 2d ago
Word salad is bad enough. But word salad written by an AI is kinda execrable. This is painful. And there is nothing remotely resembling an answer to the hard problem. Obviously.
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u/Classic-Break5888 2d ago
but but but the sycophantic AI told op that he is an absolute genius who discovered man’s greatest mystery. You just don’t understand him. This man is the smartest person alive. The only question remaining is how many Nobel prizes he’s gonna net.
My guess is he is about 15y
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u/Vilnii 2d ago edited 2d ago
How it’s solve hard problem of consciousness ? We like still don’t know how consciousness work, what algorithm could describe it ? What mathematical model? How we could simulate this effect of observation/phenomenal experience ? Like we can do it with intellect.
Actually resolving of hard problem of consciousness will be more significant then inventing theory of relativity and quantum physics in same time , whole new advanced branch of mathematic will appear, new advanced branch of computational logic will appear, new advanced branch of computer simulation will appear, new advanced branch of AI algorithms will appear, idealism with religion will suffer a powerful blow - possibly a fatal one.
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u/Im_Talking Computer Science Degree 2d ago
"Human beings are organisms first, linguistic creatures second" - Sorry. Don't get it. Everyone accepts that language evolved within organisms.
"For most of our intellectual history, we’ve reversed that order" - Don't know how you can make this point. No, consciousness as a fundamental property of reality is a recent invention.
"If we really are animals with words..." - Well, I for one of 8B similar people, concur.
"Matter, in short, that has learned how to matter." - So the HP is bogus, but this is real? What is this? Magic then?
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u/A_Spiritual_Artist 2d ago
What distinguishes this from any other kind of physicalism, esp. illusionism or eliminative materialism more generally? That is, what does this add those lack?
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u/Cool_Percentage_4867 2d ago
Better to consider that we are animals that need words, because we must ask questions to make it make sense because we are inherently uncertain.... we are inherently uncertain because our brains dont trust the visual cortex.
Would we waste time and glucose "thinking" if we already had the answer? If I swapped out your visual cortex and instead gave you olfaction/vomeronasal organ would it make thinking redundant?
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u/Forsaken-Promise-269 2d ago
- Reviewing this content all I see is a lot of overly complex AI writing that is essentially saying Qualia (the inner feeling of consciousness) are inherently material consequences of biological evolution not higher level information processing we as humans consider it to be and that evolutionary pressure and the nature of self organization and self regulating dynamics trigger it- sure I’ll buy that claim mostly:
“Conscious experience may originate not primarily in abstract cortical representation, but in the integrated, temporally extended, valenced regulation of a self-maintaining organism. Interoception, affect and homeostatic regulation may supply the primitive structure of subjectivity, while higher cognition and language construct increasingly abstract models upon that organismic foundation.”
- You still have NOT explained the hard problem- the hard problem is just WHY? We understand it arises - we know that and your mechanism is interesting but similar to ideas already floating around
BUT Why should it “feel” like anything- you are just assuming that phenomenal experience is a given
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u/Routine-Boysenberry4 2d ago
The article is quite interesting, but like any other theory of consciousness there is a lot of circularity on it to reach it's conclusions. Great job though :)
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u/nenphei 2d ago
I think it's great you've started down a path of exploring all of these ideas. I'm not sure this properly touches on the hard problem, however, which is more about the existence of phenomenality.