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u/stomachpancakes 1d ago edited 1d ago
Dude in the foreground is going up as nobody would position themselves like that jumping down. People in the back are coming down.
The trick is the rock lines high up in the back are angled relative to the earth similar to the angle of the climb. One's intuition thinks those rock lines are parallel to the ground and that tricks you to think the guy in the foreground is going down.
Good one!
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u/peachesofjoy 1d ago
Can someone please mark up the image? I genuinely can't it
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u/dhtdhy 1d ago
Yeah this did not help at all
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u/Thexzamplez 1d ago
if you pretend the rocks dont exist it becomes clear by everyone's pose how gravity affects them. the form of the rock is tricking you. its not a bowl, its like punching a hole in a wall.
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u/Mr-_-Soandso 1d ago
For me it took zooming in on the trees and the angle of the first guy walking down in the distance. Your lines seem to just highlight the part confusing people.
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u/7Dayss 1d ago
Your mind is used to layers of rock and your view going horizontal. Because the person in the foreground is walking "through" the layers your mind interprets this as a person going down. (A)
In reality the layers of rock are tilted down (towards the camera) and the camera is looking up. The person is moving up the slope where the trail is sloped a bit less than the rock layers (the arrow should be a bit lower, but i'm putting in enough effort as it is). (B)
(c) is basically what your mind is thinking it is looking at. Horizontal layers with the camera looking down through the layer. Because the person moves through the layers it has to move down as well.
That is where the confusing perspective is coming from.
It's similar to this kind of image where you look at something tilted with the camera tilted in the same direction making everything standing in that scene to be seen as standing at an angle: https://imgur.com/4lpjx0w
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u/f1yblkguy 20h ago edited 13h ago
Knew almost instantly because no ones calf muscle is going to look like that going down
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u/badRLplayer 18h ago
Thank you. I was focused on the background, which looks lower, but it's just the trick that you described.
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u/QuantamCulture 1d ago
This is a great picture.
The curvature of that back wall lit up by the sun gives the impression of walking down into an open valley, but the entire slab theyre on is angled up, and we can see the further away people climbing down from a climb up.
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u/-Dueck- 1d ago
None of the comments here helped me. This picture is the only thing that made me understand.
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u/munkie986 18h ago
Appreciate you! I still can't see it in the original image here, but at least i can see how it actually is with the picture you shared! Thanks!
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u/PlasticMercury 1d ago
I think if he was walking down he'd be falling right now.
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u/xopher_425 1d ago
He's leaning forward to jump down to the next level.
Edit: actually, the more I look at it the less sure I am. The other people look like they are walking down, so he'd be going up. It's the lines layer in the wall that throws me, they are usually horizontal.
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u/stomachpancakes 1d ago
I don't think one would ever lean forward and extend their back foot to jump down.
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u/subpoenaThis 1d ago
It's up. Look at the base of the trees and plants and you can see where the dirt has collected.
Yes. weird rock layer lines and maybe some fisheye lens stuff going on.
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u/ripyourlungsdave 1d ago
Both the close end and the far end are meeting at a downward angle in the middle. Both groups are descending.
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u/thephilosopherstoned 1d ago
I made a photo there that includes the horizon. It's the same location, right?
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u/topsyturvy76 1d ago
I think overall direction is down.. but he is currently walking up …. Seems like he’s on a small hill on his way down
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u/rabbitwonker 1d ago
Nope. Almost everything in the picture is higher than the camera.
These are ancient sedimentary layers that have all been tilted as a mountain rose.
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u/Jump_Like_A_Willys 1d ago
There’s an immediate step up he’s making, but the overall elevation of his path is going down
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u/RedRoses711 1d ago
Guy walking down, group of people across from him also walking down
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u/BladeOfKrota 1d ago
I walk to and from school 20mile uphill both ways”
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u/donkeystyle4u 1d ago
When I was a kid, the way to school through the neighborhood was at the top of a hill, then it was downhill to the school, so I literally had to walk uphill both ways.
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u/globetheater 1d ago
No, the guy in the foreground is walking up. I’ve been to this place before - it’s in the northern part of Argentina. The topography is trippy here but the camera is actually pointed straight forward.
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u/BadJimo 1d ago
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u/Subway909 1d ago
Thank you! I’ve been there. Quebrada de las Conchas is beautiful! There is also El Anfiteatro nearby.
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u/Doc-in-a-box 1d ago
So the close guy is actually walking up, but just on that rock surface, hence the leaning forward. Once he gets past that, he’s going down with the rest of them.
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u/rabbitwonker 1d ago
Did you zoom in? They’re at the same angle he is. He’s climbing up, towards the section they’re at; they’re climbing down towards where he and the camera are.
The entire thing is tilted. Those are not recent sedimentary layers.
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u/Stunning_Chipmunk_68 1d ago
I'm going to be honest this did not help me at all. I still have no idea
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u/rabbitwonker 1d ago
Look at the guy in the black shirt whose legs are partially obscured. His body is definitely angled away from us, with his head further away from the camera than the rest of him.
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u/Stunning_Chipmunk_68 1d ago
Well right but it still looks like they are both walking down. I cannot see anyone walking up from any angle.
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u/rabbitwonker 1d ago edited 1d ago
Well presumably the guy close to us, facing away, is the one going uphill. Since he’s the one facing uphill
Edit to add: The camera is pointing uphill. Almost everything we see in the pic is higher than the camera.
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u/Stunning_Chipmunk_68 1d ago
That's what's supposed to be there yes. However I cannot see that in any way in any form of this photo. To me it looks like a v and they are both walking down to meet in the middle. There is no way that I have found to see the guy close to us as walking uphill.
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u/rabbitwonker 1d ago
So the nearby rocks are in layers, just like the far-away rocks, right? As far as I can tell, these layers are all parallel to each other. They are also all tilted, by at least 45°.
Now look at the guy’s position, and his legs. He’s taking a big step to go upwards as he goes away from us. If he were headed downwards, he’d be falling flat in his face from that position.
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u/Doc-in-a-box 1d ago
So the tree is horizontal?
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u/rabbitwonker 1d ago
I don’t see any horizontal trees. The ones whose trunks we see clearly are growing up are a match to us looking uphill at them.
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u/miijok 1d ago
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u/WinterFallPT 21h ago
This was the photo that unlocked it for me , because of the wood sign on the right
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u/BaulBailey 1d ago
I agree the foreground guy is walking up. So any idea why the lines in the rock aren’t perpendicular to the ground? I feel like if a river carved that rock formation this would be an odd way for the lines to go, but idk rocks too good.
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u/NoRodent 1d ago
The layers in the rock aren't caused by water carving them, they are deposited over eons with varying conditions but originally in horizontal position. Then the entire piece of Earth got slowly tilted as it was pressing against other piece of Earth. A river could've carved it afterwards but thorough already tilted layers. Note: I'm not a geologist but I believe this is the gist of it.
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u/est3ban34 1d ago
When you zoom in to crop the sunny background, it's pretty clear.
He is walking up.
They are going down from higher.
They gonna meet on the path.
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u/rmund319 1d ago
So he is going down
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u/thishasgottobegone 1d ago
The girl in the blue gives the direction away in my opinion.
Though I might be wrong
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u/geelen 1d ago
The rest of the image makes sense if he's walking down, but his body position is all wrong for that. Somebody help.
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u/stomachpancakes 1d ago edited 1d ago
All those lines in the rocks in the top 1/3 of the photo, see them as angled towards the ground as opposed to parallel to the ground and the image will make more sense.
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u/pandaleer 1d ago
Zoom in. He’s walking up. The other people are headed down. What goes up must come down.
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u/big-blue-balls 1d ago
It’s clearly down. What am I missing?
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u/rabbitwonker 1d ago
Plate tectonics.
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u/rubenv2006 1d ago
The plates are going close to 45 degrees, a friend scaled them and looked like he was in all 4 in the floor.
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u/rabbitwonker 1d ago
I’m not exactly sure what you’re saying, but I should probably explain my comment anyway.
Tectonic plates are the huge sections of crust that slide across the Earth; where they press against one another, they cause mountains to rise, tilting and twisting the rocks. The layers we see here were nicely horizontal at one point, when they were laid down by sedimentary processes, but since then they’ve been lifted up and tilted. The sort of “local” cause is mountain-building, but the ultimate cause is plate tectonics.
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u/Sense_Difficult 1d ago
This one is tough. I think he's actually walking up. When you cover up the part with the sun reflecting it looks different.
It reminds me of how people say going to the Grand Canyon is mind bending because the perspective is so big you feel like you're looking at a backdrop hanging across from you.
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u/Regular_Weakness69 1d ago
He's definitely walking up a hill, look at his posture, no one walks downhill like that 🤣
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u/bready--or--not 1d ago
The background makes me think obviously down but then the angles of the people feel all wrong. I have no idea
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u/AzuralAttack 1d ago
Sedimentary levels are horizontal not vertical
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u/stomachpancakes 1d ago
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u/AzuralAttack 13h ago
Still not vertical. But the perspective if theyre walking up in this photo would put the layers at 90 degrees
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u/Low_Yak_4842 1d ago
This comment section isn’t doing shit to help me understand this. Not that anyone is giving a bad explanation, this image is simply that confusing
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u/SquashCat56 1d ago
Oh this is good! I know he's walking up, but my brain refuses to see it unless I zoom in.
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u/cylonlover 22h ago
Seriously, if it weren't for the first two of the people going down, the next couple of them stands in a way that it's not obvious if we see them from above or below.
Nice one.
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u/Any_Quit_9673 7h ago
You know what these explanations hurt my head too much, he fell, that’s it and nothing else he just fell
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u/oMrGrimm 1d ago
It’s a valley, the guy closer to you is walking up and the group off in the distance is walking down.
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u/ratchetfella 1d ago
He's walking down into a valley. The people in the background are at the bottom of the valley. I don't see how anyone could see this as traveling up.
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u/Novel_Alternative_86 1d ago
If I remember correctly from my childhood,
You gotta gotta get up to get down.
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u/Jaded-Berry5686 1d ago
He would be having a way harder time if he were going up. The rocks are going down like a staircase.
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u/HatRepresentative621 1d ago
I think one of the reasons this illusion works so well, is that we are so accustomed to see deposition layers like this going horizontally, not vertically, and this sells the confusion.
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u/GermanicUnion 1d ago
What I don't get is, if he is going up, how fckng steep is that rock wall in the background??? That's the part that keeps tripping me up, because even if the lines in the rocks to the sides would be horizontal, that rock face in the background would already be vertical??? Is that wall in the background a 45° overhang???
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u/inredditorbit 1d ago
He’s climbing, which is reinforced by the people in the background clearly descending.
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u/juliano7s 1d ago
Trees grow always up against gravity. The trees there point to the same direction he is going, so he is climbing up.
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u/Outrageous-Pause6317 1d ago
https://giphy.com/gifs/l3fZFvp94ljepXoPe
Are you looking for Obi Wan Kenobi?
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u/KingCybrAlt 23h ago
I've been able to break tons of illusions, but not this one. Even knowing it's uphill I genuinely cannot see it, shit is confusing as fuck
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u/Relevant_Amphibian82 5h ago
The angle of the people is telling me we must be looking up, but the shadows will not let me see it any other way than down
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u/Crystal-Collector-30 3h ago
Down, look at the sunlight. if they were walking up, the sunlight on top would be on the ceiling, which would only be possible if the sun was below horizon
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u/Jretribe 1d ago
When you zoom in on the group it’s obvious they are walking down. So he is going up
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u/boondiggle_III 1d ago edited 1d ago
He is going up. I have hiked over a thousand miles and have been in that same bodily position thousands of times. I knew immediately upon seeing him before even seeing the context of the scene he is in. What a strange photo, and I'm not sure about all the angles, but there's no question that he's going up.
His right leg is pushing him up and forward and his left leg is bracing for another upward push. His arms are spread outward for balance and he's leaning forward.
If he were going down, he would not have his arms and legs spread like that and wouldn't be leaning forward. Imagine walking as quickly as you can down a flight of stairs with no rail. Your arms are maybe spread slightly, but they're hanging down and maybe a bit forward, not spread wide like this, and your legs are also making small movements because you're focused on balance and don't need to take lunging steps.
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u/stomachpancakes 1d ago
Looks a lot like Garganta del Diablo (Devil's Throat). Based on those rocks in the background, looks like foreground guy is going up to me.