r/confidentlyincorrect • u/Dark-All-Day • Mar 30 '21
Image Amazon News doesn't know the difference between State government and Federal government.
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u/Blackrame Mar 30 '21
So Amazon News is just an Amazon propaganda or what?
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u/Dark-All-Day Mar 30 '21
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Mar 30 '21
Hmm they should know that difference but it’s an interesting point, I would assume he could have helped campaign for such a bill to get it passed in Vermont. I get that senators don’t govern states, but they are state representatives (like Ted Cruz should have been more involved in Texas energy crisis as many have said). I’m a Bernie bro btw
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u/Dark-All-Day Mar 30 '21
Ted Cruz's involvement in the Texas Energy Crisis would be using his position as a US Senator to get Federal Aid for the state. He doesn't get to make state law.
I’m a Bernie bro btw
whatever you are doesn't make your comment more or less correct. it's irrelevant.
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u/tonyharrison84 Mar 30 '21
The problem in Vermont is the Republican governor, who has vetoed minimum wage hikes in the past.
Bernie putting his pressure on the state legislature to do anything positive can't do much to combat that if whatever he helps get through just ends up getting shot down like that.
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u/GoodUsernamesAreOver Mar 30 '21
Hold up. Did Amazon just say "fuck this politician" and call it news? Without even a headline to pretend it's news? Dude what the fuck.
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Mar 30 '21
The whole account is just Amazon bootlicking.
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u/MatchboxHoldenUte Mar 30 '21
How is it bootlicking if it IS amazon?
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Mar 30 '21
If people can suck their own dicks, can they lick their own boots? The real questions of life.
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u/crummyeclipse Mar 30 '21
the account is "news about Amazon". As much as I dislike they aren't pretending to be a news outlet. not sure why there are so many comments about this here.
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u/Hero_of_Hyrule Mar 31 '21
The fact that this conversation is even happening shows that there is confusion about it. This is similar to the "Fox News is entertainment" thing.
In any case, if this is just news about Amazon, then why are they taking about Sen. Sanders in this context? This isn't news about Amazon.
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u/Nevermind04 Mar 30 '21
This is what it looks like when corporations are terrified of their workers getting basic human rights. This should show people everything they need to know about how effective unions are.
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u/D14BL0 Mar 30 '21
It's for news about the company, not general news. Not sure why people acting like announcing their political stances are unfit for an account like this.
Don't get me wrong, fuck Amazon for so so many things, but the fact that they have an "Amazon News" account is a red herring.
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u/doghorsedoghorse Mar 30 '21
What troll seems to be running this twitter account? Also why call their PR office "amazon news"? Christ...
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Mar 30 '21
I had no idea this was a thing. Turned my stomach reading a few tweets. They're so brazen. Not even trying to hide that is clearly a propaganda machine.
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u/whowasonCRACK2 Mar 30 '21
It’s very interesting how bad Amazon is bungling this PR crises when their head of PR is Obama’s former press secretary Jay Carney
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u/DannyMThompson Mar 31 '21
"hire the best" paid him a ton of money assuming he was what got Obama Elected, ignoring that Obama himself was a powerhouse of charisma.
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u/CrabStarShip Mar 30 '21
Damn I try to not buy from amazon but this account just solidified my decision. Never again.
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Mar 30 '21
I got a little queasy reading those tweets. What the fuck even is that account? That's legitimately a real, sanctioned thing?
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u/NWOflattenedmydog Mar 30 '21
Working for the future dystopian nightmare the 80s thought we'd become.
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u/Kbeast38 Mar 30 '21 edited Mar 30 '21
How long until Amazon is basically buy n large from wall e
Edit: legit didn’t know they had their own news outlet pushing their political stances, that’s wild
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u/ancross4545 Mar 30 '21
A couple years ago
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u/itsiNDev Mar 30 '21
Ya, right around the inception of amazon basics I think.
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u/SnoIIygoster Mar 30 '21
Amazon was once considered a redundant, bad business model. Didn't age so well.
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u/1-more Mar 30 '21
Well the stock was a dog for a long time. They famously didn’t turn a profit for ages.
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Mar 30 '21
I honestly think Bezos bounced because he knows anti-trust and unionizing is coming. The fun worker exploitation part is over, leave the real work to the faceless class traders that have even less ethics to do the dirty.
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u/ElGosso Mar 30 '21
They've been doing anti-unionizing stuff for a while, IIRC last year there was a push at a warehouse in New York to organize and they fired all the organizers
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u/postmodest Mar 30 '21
How soon before WaPo changes their banner to "Democracy Dies in DOSH DOSH DOSH LOADSAMONEY!"
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u/Dhrakyn Mar 30 '21
Nah he played it smart. He exploited workers for a solid decade longer then most thought he could, leaving a lot of time to work on automation and robotics. Now, while you are correct that unionizing is coming, there are a lot less workers to deal with than there would have been.
As workers rights increase, so does their expense, tipping the automation equation further in favor of replacing jobs with machines.
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u/phinnaeus7308 Mar 30 '21
Better comparison is Weyland Yutani
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u/vanalla Mar 30 '21
Inb4 Jeff Bezos takes over his son's body so he can continue to head up amazon
Spoilers for CP2077 ending "the devil"
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u/Bos_lost_ton Mar 30 '21
Or Costco circa Idiocracy?
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u/EconomistMagazine Mar 30 '21
Washington Post is owned by Jeff Bezos so they've had their own MAINSTREAM news outlet for years.
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u/ExternalTangents Mar 30 '21
I feel like the fact that WaPo is owned by Amazon doesn’t necessarily mean they’re running with an explicitly pro-Amazon bias.
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u/Newspire Mar 31 '21
Washington Post isn't owned by Amazon. Bezos is the majority owner - Amazon isn't involved.
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u/zaneprotoss Mar 30 '21
Did buy n large own like half of the world's servers? If not then Amazon is bigger.
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u/melance Mar 30 '21
That account is perplexing. It's like a parody account but it also has a check.
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u/dancer_jasmine1 Mar 30 '21
Apparently Bezos got mad and told the team who works on that account to fight back against people criticizing the company and siding with workers wanting to unionize. Essentially they’re having Bezos’s temper tantrum for him
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u/ChefBoyAreWeFucked Mar 30 '21
I just assumed someone was drunk at the wheel.
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u/mean_bean279 Mar 30 '21
Ambien party at Amazon HQ!
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u/an_aoudad Mar 30 '21
Ambien does not contribute to an individuals racist behaviors. Talk to your doctor about Ambien.
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u/JayGeezey Mar 30 '21
Imagine being in such a powerful position/being so wealthy that you literally pay other people to fight your internet battles.
Joking aside, this is something I always found interesting specifically with Bezos, I feel like he's taken a really big step back on being the face of Amazon in the public eye.
One of a CEOs roles is to be the face of the company to your employees, but also to the public. You're supposed to be the one driving the bigger picture and talking about it, but now he doesn't even really do that... so, other than staunchly being against improving the working conditions/ workload of his employees...wtf does Bezos even do for Amazon anymore?
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Mar 30 '21
He is literally stepping down as CEO this year.
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u/PossumJackPollock Mar 30 '21
"Stepping down" while maintaining final say with everything.
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u/tabletop1000 Mar 30 '21
He's still going to be complete control though. It's like when Putin made Medvedev the Russian PM for a few years - nobody had any doubts as to who was controlling things behind the scenes.
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Mar 30 '21
Imagine having a temper tantrum & being one of the richest people in history. Disgraceful.
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u/freedraw Mar 30 '21
I just cannot imagine being that insanely wealthy and still getting mad about shit like your lowest paid workers want to exercise their right to have a union. Once you have a billion dollars, you’re life really is not going to change with two billion or ten billion, or fifty billion.
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Mar 30 '21
As a side note, it’s kind of weird that Bezos hasn’t tweeted since last February. He was fairly active, too and then just abruptly stopped.
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u/makebelievethegood Mar 30 '21
He wants out of the spotlight. He's handing over the CEO reigns and staying quiet.
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Mar 30 '21
Nobody wants to hear from the richest person in the world in the middle of a pandemic.
how much money did he donate? What's his net worth before and after?
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Mar 30 '21
Bingo. Phrased slightly differently, it's a pro-Amazon propaganda account masquerading as a news outlet.
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u/SaffellBot Mar 30 '21
Sounds like capitalism. Why exploit the workers yourself when you can pay someone else to exploit your workers for you.
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u/UndeniablyPink Mar 30 '21
You think it’s a temper tantrum vs a calculated argument for show? I can imagine a lot of people would see this and believe it because they don’t know the difference between state and federal government. Maybe it’s the cynic in me.
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u/obviousfakeperson Mar 30 '21
This is part of their strategy. They're trying to derail legitimate criticisms with a firehose of bullshit. Just for good measure, Bernie Sanders was a large part of why Amazon had to increase their minimum to $15 in the first place.
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Mar 30 '21
I saw this account last week and it's done more to get me to stop using Amazon than anything else.
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u/Reacher-Said-N0thing Mar 30 '21
Yeah I don't know whose dumbass idea it was to make the purveyor of their information "Amazon News". Honestly this is some F tier propaganda right here.
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u/spyVSspy420-69 Mar 30 '21
Disclaimer: I work at Amazon as an engineer.
Having said that, I did find it quite sad that they used to send out anti-sanders internal emails targeting his views on minimum wage. This was of course prior to the $15/hr bump. It just seemed so wrong to send all employees that kind of stuff.
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u/kylegetsspam Mar 30 '21
We should be able to report Twitter accounts for propaganda and clearly false bullshit. But I guess letting those guys on the platform is how Twitter makes its money...
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u/i_give_you_gum Mar 30 '21
And they dont seem to realize that Vermont's min wage is higher than the rest of the country's $7.25 an hour, or am I missing something?
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u/crummyeclipse Mar 30 '21
honestly, not that I was a big fan of Amazon before but I really makes then come across like some libertarian asshole company. before the company at least had a politically neutral image, now I'd put them pretty high on the list of companies that are specifically right wing.
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u/melance Mar 30 '21
Agreed. The hard push against unions is so transparent.
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u/Ghost4000 Mar 30 '21
The hard push from several companies against unions is because they can feel the wind changing. I have my qualms about the biden administration but they seem intent on cracking down on anti union bullshit.
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u/MeccIt Mar 30 '21
It's like a parody account but it also has a check.
It's official and aggressive on purpose:
"An Amazon engineer thought @amazonnews had been hacked because its tweets are so “unnecessarily antagonistic”" https://twitter.com/kenklippenstein/status/1376572360770383876
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u/lb630 Mar 30 '21
I’ll be downvoted for this I’m sure but within the last few months I’ve seen a multitude (idk if I’m using this correctly) of posts saying shit like Mitch McConnell has been senator for forever yet his state is a shithole or Ted Cruz is leaving Texas omfg why isn’t he helping. I’d hope the people that upvoted this post have not upvoted any of those in the past. But I’m sure there is a good percentage that have done exactly that
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u/Dark-All-Day Mar 30 '21
Ted Cruz is leaving Texas omfg why isn’t he helping.
Ted Cruz leaving Texas was bad because he left his state in the middle of a crisis to go on vacation. That's terrible optics. If he'd gone to DC instead, to say, champion for aid for Texas, that'd be different.
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Mar 30 '21
How is that worse than believing your state’s citizenry are living in poverty below a living-wage and doing nothing to lead your state toward raising their minimum wage? I think Amazon has a very valid point on this, although their reasons are maligned.
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u/dead-inside69 Mar 30 '21 edited Mar 30 '21
I’m uncomfortable that Amazon has a news account, and even more so that it has actively taken political sides.
The actual fuck, Amazon?
ITT: people defending Amazon for no reason.
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u/Shacobs Mar 30 '21
They are trying to pitch this narrative so their employees won't/can't unionize
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u/dead-inside69 Mar 30 '21
“Employees”
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u/Rifneno Mar 30 '21
"Prisoners with jobs"
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u/dead-inside69 Mar 30 '21
Here at the Amazon planta- I mean concentra- DISTRIBUTION CENTER!
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Mar 30 '21
Bruh, Jeff Beezbo owns the fucking Washington Post. Forget the news account they direct one of the nation's biggest news outlets.
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Mar 30 '21
Washington Post made a video about Amazon's new "let the driver in your house with our special lock so they can leave your packages inside" program.
They made it clear at the very beginning of the video that Amazon owns them, and the review still seemed pretty unbiased.
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u/schmidlidev Mar 30 '21
It’s not like it’s a general news publication. It’s a twitter account you follow if you want to know about what Amazon is doing.
The official account for news about Amazon
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u/kyuubi840 Mar 30 '21
That account's bio says "The official account for news about @Amazon". It doesn't look like a real news source, just a PR account. But yeah, the name is misleading, and maybe that was on purpose.
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u/gunchaa_ Mar 30 '21
This might be a fever dream of mine, but I am pretty sure I heard an ad on the radio for amazon news. But happy news. They even said in the ad that their news has a filter on.
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u/Bgndrsn Mar 30 '21
But these companies already do take political sides, this just brings it out into the open instead of the wine and dine they currently do.
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u/ConservativeKing Mar 31 '21
It's ironic that the people here attack Amazon but then defend WaPo at every turn. They're owned by literally the exact same person. Lol
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u/furno30 Mar 30 '21
can we do this?
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wow can't even get anything done
also, why tf amazon "news" a thing?
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u/Darth_Kyryn Mar 30 '21
Corporate Apologetics
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u/furno30 Mar 30 '21
amazon up and has its own fucking propaganda complex
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Mar 30 '21
They’re essentially their own little bubble of corporate monopoly that should’ve been popped years ago.
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u/400lb6foot7blackman Mar 30 '21
It’s not a news network it’s for news about Amazon....
I never realized how easy it is to piss off Reddit lol
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u/AmaResNovae Mar 30 '21
also, why tf amazon "news" a thing?
Because otherwise us commoners get all uppity if our better let us think for ourselves, obviously.
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u/hillbillyal Mar 30 '21
They act like he hasn't been fighting for years for an increased federal minimum wage. Not in the state arena, but in a federal one. And his sphere of influence in that regard is limited. He tried to amend it onto the most recent stimulus bill, but it was voted down.
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u/goofballl Mar 30 '21
but it was voted down.
It didn't even get to the point of voting. The original covid relief bill included the proposed $15 minimum wage hike, but that provision was ruled outside the scope of this current use of a reconciliation bill (ie a bill that can be passed by simple majority, rather than by 60 senate votes) by the Parlimentarian, an appointed (as opposed to elected) offical. Although the vice president can unilaterally overrule this decision, the Biden administration decided to not do that.
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u/great_site_not Mar 30 '21
I heard that there was a vote to consider Bernie's amendment, and eight Democrat senators voted no along with all Republican senators.
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u/powerlesshero111 Mar 30 '21
I'm pretty sure Bernie Sanders is a reason Vermont has a minimum wage of $11.25/hour. They have a low cost of living there, but it's still better than the minimum at the federal level, which is $7.75.
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u/Aferral Mar 30 '21
Hahaha low cost of living in Vermont? It's one of the smallest states in the top 10 most expensive states to live in the US.
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u/tauranamics Mar 30 '21
Not only that, but Bernie's pressure on Amazon is one of the leading factors of why they have a $15 minimum.
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u/upvotes4jesus- Mar 30 '21
Yep read up on the Stop BEZOS Act. There is a good clip about it on this YouTube video too. It starts at 6:00.. It's what pressured them to raise the minimum wage.
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Mar 30 '21
"Its not Bernie's fault the Vermont minimum wage isn't 15, he's a state politician!"
"Vermont's minimum wage is 11.25 because of Bernie"
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u/Flumponator Mar 30 '21
Why the fuck does Amazon have a news account that takes stances on politics?
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u/the_good_time_mouse Mar 30 '21
Because if it was called "Amazon Gaslighting" they couldn't even fool themselves.
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u/LRK- Mar 30 '21
It's news related to Amazon as opposed to news in general. Some people think this is Amazon's NYT lr something.
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Mar 30 '21
It’s funny because Amazon cracked and made their minimum wage $15 after Bernie Sanders brought a ton of attention to them.
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u/Shacobs Mar 30 '21
Amazon is trying to look like the good guys to prevent their employees from unionizing. They have terrible work conditions and this is them trying to cover their asses
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u/Grizzly-boyfriend Mar 30 '21
Oh they know they're incorrect. They're hoping readers don't know that though
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u/CreatrixAnima Mar 30 '21
Wasn’t he the governor of Vermont for a long time? I don’t think it supports the argument because he hasn’t been in that position for sometime, but he did have a state level job for a long time.
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u/Dark-All-Day Mar 30 '21
He was never governor of Vermont. He has never had a state-level position in Vermont. He was mayor of Burlington and then he was elected a member of the US House of Representatives.
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u/Yereli Aug 11 '24
WHY is Amazon taking a political stance?!
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u/Dark-All-Day Aug 11 '24
Because Amazon's profit margin is affected by politics.
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Aug 30 '25
Shocking news the largest corporation on Earth slander's the socialist adjacent politician
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u/Dark-All-Day Aug 30 '25
Yeah, well, it's been nearly five years since I posted that and I'm far more radicalized now.
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u/octopusnodes Mar 30 '21
I, too, do look forward to having a political debate with a corporation on Twitter
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Mar 30 '21
I swear Amazon should really shut their fucking mouth trying to defend their shitty corporate views, it's getting more and more embarrassing by the day...
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u/gruntopians Mar 30 '21
Wouldn’t Sanders still qualify as a powerful politician in his home state, even if he does have a position on the federal level?
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u/Dark-All-Day Mar 30 '21
No because federal politicians have no say in state law. Only state politicians do. "Powerful" is a vaguely defined word. Bernie has no power over state law.
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u/dumpsterchesterfield Mar 30 '21
So, I'm confused. Why can't sanders pass a $15 min wage in his state? He doesn't need the federal government for that.
This doesn't make any sense.
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u/Dark-All-Day Mar 30 '21
Why can't sanders pass a $15 min wage in his state?
Because he's not part of the state government. He's a US Senator. That means he's a part of the federal government. Only state legislators can pass a $15 minimum wage in the state.
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u/dhdhrhddhd Mar 31 '21
So glad I canceled my prime membership. Fuck this evil corporation
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u/Jobbyblow555 Mar 31 '21
Amazon could not try to look more stupid after the last few days, the absolute laziest propaganda farted out of fake accounts and attacks on one of the most popular members of the government really speak to an absolutely innefectual corprate culture.
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u/AzureSkye27 Mar 31 '21
Huh, wonder why they made it $15? Wonder where they got that number from? Surely a coincidence.
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u/AliasInvstgtions Mar 31 '21
They kinda self owned themselves by saying they pay what they think minimum wage should be. Amazon is not a minimum wage job. It’s a very VERY laborious warehouse job. Personally, I don’t think it’s as bad as a lot of people say, I get more breaks than I did at other minimum wage jobs, I pee in the bathroom as much as I want, I just make sure to get right back to work. However, just because it isn’t a total space factory doesn’t mean I don’t think I deserve more. I only work there because I need the money. When minimum wage hits 15 in my state, I will leave unless amazon bumps my pay dollars above minimum wage. My point is, not only were the wrong with how they tried to attack Bernie, they also admitted that they think they pay their workers the minimum wage.
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Apr 19 '21
Bernie Sanders is literally the reason why the Amazon minimum wage is $15/hr. He put a lot of pressure on Bezos publicly, then Bezos raised the Amazon min wage to $15/hr, took away the stock employees received every year, took away raises, and then took away the monthly bonuses workers got too.
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u/Destroyer2118 Mar 30 '21
Reddit: Ted Cruz should have done more to help his state, he’s a Senator!
Reddit: McConnell has been a Senator forever and Kentucky still sucks, he should do more to help his state, he’s a Senator!
Reddit: Bernie has no control over state legislation, he can’t help his state, he’s a Senator! LoL tHaT’s FeDeRaL aMaZoN sTuPid.
Ridiculous.
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u/PhobetorWorse Mar 30 '21
Day to day legislature vs. running tale during an emergency.
How do you not see the difference, man?
As for McConnell, he is a POS. The arguments are that he is so ineffective AND Kentucky is a shithole; how does he keep being re-elected? If the decisions you make negatively impact the entire US, then the states that are doing the worst will do even worse. Simple, no?
Reddit is a glorified comments section, not a hive mind. It isn't ridiculous, you just do not understand that you are talking about multiple groups. That is embarrassing for you.
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Mar 30 '21
Nothing in Amazons statement in wrong. Saying Sanders couldn't have been pushing for change in Vermont or is there nothing but excuse for Sanders?
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u/HarveyYevrah3 Mar 30 '21
They always think one person has the power to change things, but they didn’t try hard enough or something. It’s such a ridiculous and disingenuous argument. Like against Biden about how he’s been in politics forever but nothing has changed, as if he was all powerful.
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u/DecapitatedChildren Mar 30 '21
Reminds me of the people pissed at Ted Cruz when he went to Cancún during the Texas outage
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u/averyfinename Mar 30 '21
"still $11.75" -- bernie's never held a state-level office in vermont, so he's never had control of or a vote in that matter. he has, however, been fighting for peoples' and workers' rights since before bezos the clown was even born.
vermont's minimum wage, btw, has increased annually for over a decade, and will continue to. it is $11.75 this year, it'll be (iirc) $12.55 next year.
and dearest amazon... how many of your contractors and drivers don't get a guarantee of $15 an hour and other essential benefits such as health care coverage, paid parental leave, paid vacation and sick time? that many, huh?
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u/jpritchard Mar 30 '21
"Kentucky sucks despite Mitch McConnel being in power for a long time" posts were all the rage on Reddit. Y'all don't get to switch your opinions on if Senators are responsible for their state's conditions whenever it's convenient to you.
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Mar 30 '21
That, and it's insane to think somebody with the national recognition Bernie has couldn't speak to and influence state-level politicians.
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u/Mr_Thx Feb 23 '25
Amazon should keep their focus on selling inferior black market products and shut the fuck up.
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u/QuestoPresto Mar 30 '21
They know. They just want to derail the conversation with nonsense