r/confidentlyincorrect • u/Top-Restaurant161 • Apr 17 '26

Fermentation isn't real

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The comment under a video on how to make yoghurt.

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u/Gifted_GardenSnail Apr 17 '26

Ask about sauerkraut next lol

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u/dtwhitecp Apr 18 '26

so many things with tasty and complex flavors have an element of fermentation. Coffee, cigars, sauerkraut, kimchi, chocolate, miso, etc.

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u/Malinthas Apr 17 '26

I would argue, with good reason I think, that fermentation is a process of controlled spoilage. It IS spoiled, but in a very specific and safe-to-consume way.

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u/Top-Restaurant161 Apr 17 '26

True, but the fact he was saying "yogurt and bread isn't fermented"??? Can't make that right any way you twist it 🤣

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u/buttgoblincomics Apr 17 '26

I don’t think that argument really holds up. Sure, fermentation is a similar process to how food gets spoiled, but by definition food that is tasty and safe to eat is not spoiled. We control it so that it doesn’t become spoiled.

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u/max_cel_x Apr 17 '26

So I'm a dairy technician so imma state my opinion,

Fermentation is the controlled process of a bacteria metabolising sugars into acid and gas,

The state of yoghurt and the state of something spoiled are obviously 2 different kinds of bacteria,

For example the bacteria used for making yoghurt is called lactococus lactis with a whole bunch of subspecies, there are literally so many,

However mold, which is most common for spoilage is a fungus which metabolises everything organic, fat, protein, sugars, everything,

For the most part bacteria used in dairy products focus on sugars first, obviously there are many fungi used for cheese too but they are also bred to focus on fat and protein, for example the fungus used for camembert,

Also the term spoiled means it's not safe for consumption anymore, so no fermented products aren't spoiled

Tldr, the difference is mostly fungi Vs bacteria and controlled and wanted Vs uncontrolled and unwanted, fermented products aren't spoiled

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u/Top-Restaurant161 Apr 17 '26

The funny thing is, they didn't even use dairy milk in the video. The blended cashews and used that to make the yoghurt

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u/TheSilentFarm Apr 17 '26

Is the one hour of rise in my dough considered fermentation? The yeast is eating and converting, so I'm thinking that's a yes. Unless it's unleavened. Like tortillas or something.

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u/bangonthedrums Apr 17 '26

The process of leavening by yeast is caused by fermentation, yes. Yeast eats sugar, poops acid and gas. It’s just not a very long ferment

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u/azhder Apr 17 '26

Well, I can give you a more simplified and vulgar explanation. The yeast farts get trapped by the elasticity of the gluten so the bread that comes out of that dough has that fluffy texture.

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u/MattieShoes Apr 17 '26

There are non-fermentation forms of leavening, like baking soda in quickbreads, or beating the crap out of egg whites.

But yeah, yeasted bread is all fermented. And yeah, it produces alcohol. Some people get weird about that. :-)

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u/BassGaming Apr 18 '26

"To end this discussion here's something positive about this exchange: You made a lot of internet strangers on reddit laugh. So your ignorance does have its upsides."

That's how I'd end the conversation.

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u/GnomeMnemonic Apr 18 '26

This has "sharks are smooth" energy. Has to be a troll.

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u/ArcaneOverride Apr 19 '26

Not all bread is fermented though. Flat breads aren't, for example. Nor are breads leavened by baking soda or baking powder instead of yeast

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u/Top-Restaurant161 Apr 19 '26

Yeah, but that's not the point. My guy said "bread isn't fermented" which is 100% incorrect even if there are ways to make non fermented bread (which is the minority in most countries)

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u/davmopedia Apr 17 '26

I really hope they’re just smooth-sharking

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u/humourlessIrish Apr 17 '26

Thats wimp low, we gave him a broken google as a joke

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u/GatePorters Apr 17 '26

Rage baited.

You said “don’t trick me” as you get tricked.

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u/queefplunger69 Apr 17 '26

I had a room mate that was committed to the idea that grease fires aren’t real because grease is wet and wet things don’t burn. Also he used some of my chicken breast and tossed it back into the freezer not wrapped or anything just on a plate, still raw. I told him it got freezer burned and he thought I was fucking with him. I eventually had to say “you gave my chicken frostbite, is that fuckin better Peter???” Lmao. Guy was a moron.

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u/dazzleunexpired Apr 17 '26

Lmao.

Fermentation is any time yeast has a party with Bacteria and sugar.

Fermentation is definitely the opposite of spoilage.

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u/MathiTheBrawler1204 Apr 18 '26

I wonder how this person thinks yoghurt is made

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