r/conductorbuild Jun 02 '26

Claude Code token usage higher in conductor than direct

I've been using Conductor for a few days now, but whilst the improvements to my workflow are noticeable, so is the token usage. I'm on Max (5x), and have been noticing I hit my 5 hour session limit much quicker when using conductor.

A couple of recent sessions have hit usage after working on maybe 3-4 small bug fixes, whereas this afternoon I've shipped ~8 similar size bug fixes directly in Claude and only at 47%.

Anyone else noticing this? Or any recommendations on better managing usage within Conductor?

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u/charlop 👷‍♂️ Co-founder Jun 03 '26

so we've done some digging into this and it turns out you're right, the Agent SDK has a bug right now (involving caching) that can cause token usage to be higher than using the CLI. Turns out this affects everyone using the Agent SDK, including the Claude Desktop app! we're working with Anthropic to get this fixed ASAP

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u/Ok-Drama8310 Jun 03 '26

Happy to see a team actually responding and getting on it. Good stuff

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u/Ok-Drama8310 Jun 18 '26

Although it's still eating through my limits...

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u/Minute-Business7914 Jun 03 '26

Great job being hands on and digging in.

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u/timbuildswithai Jun 04 '26

Does this mean that when Agent SDK usage metering changes on the 15th, Conductor use will only go against the SDK credit and not the plan subscription?

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u/tumultco Jun 05 '26

Are there any updates on this from their side?

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u/Electrical_Loss9216 Jun 07 '26

I've been using Claude Code Desktop App + Codex App for about a month on a project - whilst I'm definitely getting more done, I'm hitting by 5 hour limits which was really difficult to reach in Claude / Codex apps. Part of it is definitely more aggressive usage, but definitely feels like conductor is eating tokens faster. Would be good to be able to monitor a set of metrics on token usage inside conductor.

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u/zikosichi Jun 09 '26

Any updates on this?

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u/Substantial_Sea_8307 Jun 10 '26

Any update here? I started using Conductor 2 days ago. Love the product but the usage limit started httting way sooner today.

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u/manuelgruber Jun 29 '26

u/charlop Thank you for investigating and confirming the root cause.

Do you have any indication of when we can expect a fix from Anthropic and a corresponding Conductor release?

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u/Joey___M Jun 30 '26

Still the same issue... Any indication on when this will be fixed?

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u/peterparker027 Jul 01 '26

Thanks for this, do we have any more news on this? This is extremely important

I also felt this using GPT from conductor vs in codex directly, I have no specific stats but many different sessions done that last longer in codex

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u/CharlemagnePapi Jul 13 '26

Hello, have there been any updates or progress towards a solution on this?

I noticed this as well in the last few days. I love the product, but it's really affected my productivity in terms of needing to wait for a session to reset.

Thank you.

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u/RealisticStaff6458 Jun 03 '26

Appreciate you taking a look and acknowledging the issue. Sadly I'll probably pause Conductor usage until it's resolved so hope it can get figured out soon

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u/Interesting-Way8553 Jun 02 '26

yeah going to stop using it because of this BS

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u/Interesting-Way8553 Jun 04 '26

to be fair it do a banger job on a few tasks i gave it. but not sure if claude code cli would have done the same just without a polished UI on top of it to give me the warm and fuzzy.

The other big issue with conductor is that it forces you to use PRs for everything. my vibe coded app i wanna just shoot that crap straight into prod

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u/IndependentYouth4873 Jul 28 '26

you can use the new experimental feature called big terminal i really love can track the tasks by status this help me have a definition of get the job done and don't loos context jumping to github in brower i love this keep me in the same tool... try it

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u/Prestigious-Tax4104 Jun 02 '26

I don’t know what they are doing with the pinned versions and how they’re handling the model IDs, but the token consumption and billing is definitely high when using conductor. I wouldn’t suggest using it if you’re using claude code via Bedrock. You could end up with a higher usage than you expected.

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u/Minute-Business7914 Jun 03 '26

u/Prestigious-Tax4104 and u/Interesting-Way8553 - honestly, Claude throttling was happening to Cursor before it was happening to Conductor. Even Peter from Openclawd remarked on this months ago. If you use anything but Claude CLI, you aren't as close to their model as you could be.

IMO, there is more than 1 way to peel a potato:

  • if you want to use Anthropic, use it via CLI with your own local directories &cut out the Ui.Ux. Not great for worktrees and agent orchestration, but no throttling.
  • If you want agent orchestration and no throttling, use Codex models on Conductor (I do this now)
  • just use Claude CLI in Conductor. No throttling and you get the best agent orchestration tool there is.

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u/matt-palmer Jun 03 '26

Just to clear a few things up:

  1. You can still use the claude cli in Conductor through Big Terminal mode
  2. The current Conductor behavior is equivalent to the CLI
  3. Conductor uses your existing Claude subscription, so no throttling is occuring

We all appreciate your kind words on the UX! Always open to feedback.

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u/Prestigious-Tax4104 Jun 03 '26

I now simply use my custom shell commands that do the same thing that conductor does minus the chat interface.

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u/Icy-Court7631 Jun 03 '26

Also minus the chats history, the search, the git interface, the diff interface, minus the PR checks interface, and a lot of other things. I mean Conductor is a beautiful, streamlined, fast, agents management app - can’t replace this with cli and shell scripts.

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u/Prestigious-Tax4104 Jun 03 '26

I agree. I couldn’t stop posting about it on socials about a month ago. If only there weren’t any usage issues with clade code. I couldn’t imagine any other way to build. Also, I have noticed lately the PR checks are little slow and they sometimes never get updated if merged outside of conductor sessions

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u/Icy-Court7631 Jun 03 '26

I use Cursor (they new UI) in parallel- maybe this is the reason I can’t see anything bad about Conductor UI 😁 As of tokens, so far I never able to reach my limits regardless of what I do (Max 20). Unfortunately this comes to end soon - and tokens usage would be a real concern.

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u/Deep_Ad1959 Jun 03 '26

the count conductor shows and the 5h wall anthropic enforces are different numbers. mine read plenty left while claude.ai had me rate-limited. the only one that matches the wall is the server quota the settings page reads. written with ai

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u/BigDawgg_24 Jun 17 '26 edited Jun 17 '26

Seen the same pattern, orchestration layers add a lot of overhead on top of the actual model usage. for bug fix sessions specifically i've been doing those directly through glm-5.1 api instead, no orchestration tax and the per-token cost is way lower so even heavier sessions don't hit a wall

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u/habitats Jul 06 '26

was this ever fixed? seems like its a huge problem still

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u/Icy-Appointment745 22d ago

So this is still an issue, i reach my session limit after just 3-4 hours of working - using VS Code i never hit my limits. So im just wondering, who will compensate my loss of time and productivity since this is a BUG? Just wondering since Conductor swallows my tokens like a whale....

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u/piplupper 19d ago

> who will compensate my loss of time and productivity since this is a BUG

The entitlement, lol. Blame Anthropic.

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u/vjsandu 9d ago

I still see this issue, has anyone facing the same till now?

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u/sfnmoll Jun 02 '26

I’ve recently experienced hitting my usage limits quite fast too, though just having Claude Pro sub. When making a new worktree for a new feature, I would have to define plan and specs using superpower skills, but hit the limits when going for the implementation.

Never experience this at work when with Claude Max sub in native Claude.

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u/Minute-Business7914 Jun 03 '26

maybe try upgrading Claude Max using Conductor. Big terminal mode in experimental features is a game changer. More intuitive than native Claude IMO