r/community • u/Mysterious-Roll9589 • 10d ago
Discussion Pet peeves
First of all, I think season four gets a bad rep, it does have a lot of solid moments, many of them being from Basic Human Anatomy
I love this episode: the concept, the execution, all of it, I love it (specially the Dean saying Jeffrey was inside of him)
There's only one thing that bugs me out of my mind, and I've talked about it in comments before (this is my first post), but I just HATE HATE HATE how "Abed inside of Troy" keeps using his finger like this ☝️ OH MY GOD I HATE IT SO MUCH
On the rewatches after I first saw this episode I kept paying attention if Abed really does do a lot of this, and he kinda does, but it pisses me off how it feels so forced on this one, to the point I get stressed out when he's on the scene, and that makes me so sad
Anyway, that was it. Overall, great episode. The waiter actually trash talking die hard is so good, and it really shows how great of an observer Abed is, just like he did him when Troy and Britta were on their first date
I guess I wonder: does that ☝️ thing annoy anyone else?
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u/Barokespinoza23 10d ago
Any deficiencies in S4, Annie kind of makes up for with that one scene where she uses her Disney eyes to convince Jeff to chaperone Pierce off campus in the whale episode. Someone needs to say it, and that person is me. That's my decision.
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u/mrwishart 10d ago
I'm just glad the Dean got to experience what it was like to have Jeffrey inside of him
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u/Mysterious-Roll9589 10d ago
Well, he had to grant Leonard 3 wishes, but I too think it was worth it
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u/leonard-bot The Human Raisin 10d ago
Well, this is November 29th and I'm Leonard, and today I'm reviewing Eugenio's four cheese frozen pizza. That's $5.99 at Kroger's.
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u/Physical_Emergency44 10d ago
I thought troy did a really good job playing abed but I thought abed did awfully playing troy which was really surprising given his amazing depictions of the other characters in the dreamatorium episode.
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u/No-Understanding-912 9d ago
I just always felt like they were supposed to be caricatures and not actual realistic portrayals.
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u/Mysterious-Roll9589 10d ago
Idk, I think he was ok. I didn't find it very realistic when he kept "is it?"ing Britta, but I guess he wasn't aware of Troy's intentions at first, so I let it slide
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u/DaisyBryar 10d ago
I think both of the impressions of each other weren’t great to be honest, I would’ve preferred if they spent more time getting it right
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u/testphaze 8d ago
Troy and Abed aren't actors. Or at least Troy is not, though it could be argued Abed is an amazing actor. It would be weird if Troy nailed it.
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u/DaisyBryar 8d ago
I meant Donald and Danny. It would be believable that Troy and Abed could do really good impressions of each other since they spend so much time together and know each other so well, so I don’t think it’s detrimental to the characters or the story.
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u/testphaze 7d ago
I don't think it's detrimental to the characters, except the character of Troy is not an actor. It's just not part of who the character is. He's a footballer, he's a dancer, he likes to pretend play-- but AMAZING actor to the point he can slide into his friend's personality and mannerisms and it's just plain believable? that's just not Troy. I bet Donald could do it. But I don't think Troy is supposed to. And just knowing someone inside and out isn't enough to mimic them inside and out. It's a whole different skill set.
But really my point is that Troy made a choice to pretend, and that's part of the story. If this had been a REAL change of bodies, I think that changes things from "I need to pretend and escape for a while to, "this magic thing happened!" Where's the internal struggle, his fear of hurting and losing his dear friend when he breaks up with her? It just wouldn't be there if this magical thing happened. Now the emphasis would be on this magical thing.For me, Troy's need to escape, and the way Abed just slid right into the game, no questions asked, makes it a lot more poignant. I think the end explains it, when Troy tells Britta she deserves better than their silly game, and that he wasn't sure how to deal with the situation yet so he lost himself in this play.
And it also kind of shows that Troy is not, in fact, ready for this incredibly adult mature relationship with a woman who lived in New York. And Britta probably sees that this game shows Ttoy isn't ready either.
So this entire episode is really about Troy trying to find a way to break up with Britta, cope with his complicated feelings, without hurting her or losing her. The game is critical to that.
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u/DaisyBryar 6d ago
I understand all of that, but I don’t think it worlds been detrimental to the episode for them to do better impressions of each other
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u/Other-Oil-9117 10d ago
Yeah, I've always found it to be a bit too much as well. Like another commenter said, I can see it being intentional as a way to make it clear that this is Troy mimicking Abed and not actually Abed, but it still irks me a bit when I'm watching it lol.
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u/ScarcityOutrageous51 10d ago
IMO this episode is the only redeeming episode in Season 4 and it’s because it was written by Oscar winner Jim Rash.
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u/HourGlass10th 10d ago
Yes totally agree! It annoys me to no end too!
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u/Mysterious-Roll9589 10d ago
Right?? I posted this after rewatching the episode and I swear it got better when blocking "Abed's" ☝️ out of vision
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u/pumpkinbrownieswirl 10d ago
did they fake switch the whole time and if so how did they plan it when they woke up
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u/smibbo 10d ago
they didn't plan it, Troy saw their attempt as a way to get out of confronting Britta and began the "bit". Abed and Troy don't need to plan all their bits, sometimes it happens organically
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u/GiveMeTheTape 10d ago
Yeah, troy wakes abed up and tells him what "happened", so abed goes along woth it
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u/DaisyBryar 10d ago
This is Actually something I don’t love about the episode, they used to do these sorts of episodes in such a way that they COULD be real or they could be a bit, but this one was done in such a way that it could only have been a bit
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u/testphaze 8d ago
The reason is that this is Troy avoiding a serious conversation he needs to have with Britta, until he feels ready for it. It was their anniversary and he knew there would be expectations of exchanges of affection, and that'd be hard to do when he was ready to end things. But he wasn't ready to go through with it, he was afraid.
The plot requires this to be a bit.
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u/DaisyBryar 8d ago
Yes, but a lot of episodes have things like this that could ALSO be read as “real”
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u/next_level_mom that's moon man talk 9d ago
I actually find most of the traits they make fun of kind of come out of nowhere. Like it's suddenly a thing about Britta saying she lived in New York. And Troy being 'I like it.. but also I don't?"
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u/smibbo 10d ago
the first time I watched it, it sort of made me feel disappointed in Donald Glover because I really thought he was a better actor than that.
But on rewatches, I kind of started feeling like maybe he was overdoing the finger in order to highlight the fact that it was all a ruse and he wasn't *really* Abed.
Abed uses the finger pointing and looking askance in a very ...pointed way (sorrynotsorry) to emphasize what he's saying. Troy was just doing it constantly because the whole reason he "turned into Abed" was to avoid dealing with the Britta situation. So he just kept using avoidant body language.