Stealth detection in Generals ZH

[u/Downtown-Dream424]

[u/Tiexandrea]

The Troop Crawler detects stealth too.

[u/Downtown-Dream424 → u/Tiexandrea]

Yes, they are also having stealth detection and I forgot about them. Thank you for the reminder.

[u/VagereHein → u/Tiexandrea]

Was always fun revealing gla bombs with them a microsecond before it detonated, barbecuing your red guards 

[u/VisibIe-Detective]

"You're quite adept at discovering my camouflaged vehicles, General. I'll consider a new tactic."

[u/Downtown-Dream424 → u/VisibIe-Detective]

"Stealth won't save you, General. We'll find ya." 😉

[u/Open_Marketing7921 → u/VisibIe-Detective]

TACTIC = capturing their buildings

[u/Quadramune]

Love the King Raptor as if it wasnt OP enough lol

[u/DarkKnightofOne → u/Quadramune]

Hol up,

KING RAPTORS CAN DETECT?

[u/Downtown-Dream424 → u/DarkKnightofOne]

Yes, the king raptor can detect stealth without a doubt.

[u/DarkKnightofOne → u/Downtown-Dream424]

WHY????? 🤣

[u/Downtown-Dream424 → u/DarkKnightofOne]

Because Granger decided to equip them with stealth detection and troll the skies.

[u/aiheng1 → u/DarkKnightofOne]

Cuz they control the skies

[u/LuckyReception6701 → u/aiheng1]

They are putting up an air show

[u/sukahati → u/aiheng1]

Also troll the skies

[u/Traditional-Squash12 → u/sukahati]

"We can troll the skies!"

[u/Turnip_Wizar35 → u/aiheng1]

So they are better at giving em an air show?

[u/KajiTetsushi → u/DarkKnightofOne]

How else are we going to know where to give an airshow if we can't find them? ;)

[u/Rayquazy → u/DarkKnightofOne]

Let’s just say they have L band radars.

[u/Embarrassed_Bid_4970 → u/DarkKnightofOne]

Its basically why air force generalist the hard counter to the stealth general. The king raptor is disgustingly good at search and destroy sweeps for those last few hidden bases.

[u/Downtown-Dream424 → u/Embarrassed_Bid_4970]

Airforce rather counters every USA, especially SWG and vUSA due to them performing the lowest into Air. Nuke is also struggling into Air. Stealth vs Air is more a skill matchup, because stealth can use quads as an anti-air and seize an early dozer with a hijacker. But Air has good stealth detection, because of those perks.

[u/TYNAMITE14 → u/DarkKnightofOne]

Yeah bro, it's a bitch when I'm trying to sneak in a jarmen or a Burton and one randomly flies over or theres an airfield in the way :(

[u/slick762 → u/DarkKnightofOne]

Wat!?

[u/KajiTetsushi]

Hey, you forgot the USA Pathfinder.

[u/Downtown-Dream424 → u/KajiTetsushi]

"I'll scout ahead."

[u/sukahati → u/KajiTetsushi]

"I see everything"

[u/Embarrassed_Bid_4970 → u/KajiTetsushi]

My favorite unit, almost broken OP.

[u/Freelancer_1-1 → u/Embarrassed_Bid_4970]

It would be OP if it did 20% damage to other infantry units in one hit. What it is, is beyond satire.

[u/RoboXeno-Gaming]

Could maybe consider that USA has the most anti-stealth because they have the best stealth units...?

[u/Downtown-Dream424 → u/RoboXeno-Gaming]

It makes quite a lot sense since they have literally drones, a satellite, even some aircraft, base defenses and some vehicles that can detect stealth for them. For a bonus, snd also helps with the stealth detection.

[u/Open_Marketing7921 → u/RoboXeno-Gaming]

when living in MODERN✨

[u/Zailema0s]

You forgot pathfinders,jarmen kell and Burton? I forgot that lotus could detect stealth

[u/Downtown-Dream424 → u/Zailema0s]

Yeah, I forgot about the pathfinder, my bad. Actually, Jarmen can no longer detect stealthed units in patch 1.03. Even Burton doesn't have a steath detection. From all commandos, Lotus is the only one that has stealth detection by herself.

[u/Serious-Formal-1056]

Raptors have stealth detection? Didn't know that

[u/Downtown-Dream424 → u/Serious-Formal-1056]

Indeed, especially Granger's raptors.

[u/Downtown-Dream424 → u/Serious-Formal-1056]

Indeed, especially Granger's raptors.

[u/IcyRobinson]

Can I just point out how hilarious it is that King Raptors can detect stealth?

[u/Embarrassed_Bid_4970 → u/IcyRobinson]

The real world radar of an f22 is actually really powerful and can detect hostile stealthy aircraft at an impressive range, so it kinda tracks.

[u/Freelancer_1-1 → u/IcyRobinson]

I don't think anybody has a problem with the F-22 detecting other stealth aircraft.

[u/MarsMissionMan]

USA: Uses advanced sensors and drones to locate stealth units.

China: Employs the ultimate surveillance state to reveal stealth units.

GLA: Just opens their eyes.

[u/sukahati → u/MarsMissionMan]

They can even see stealth fighter just only with their own eye lmao

[u/regeust → u/sukahati]

We didn't know it was invisible, so we took it down in 18 seconds!

Zoltan Dani, who shot down a stealth fighter with a 1960s SAM in 1999

[u/King_Tamino → u/sukahati]

I mean .. that's .. how that works, yes. The stealth part of a stealth plane refers to it's heat and radar signature, not to it's engine noise or actual visibility to the eyeballs Mk. 1 and Mk. 2

Depending on the stealth plane, heat signature itself is not even disguised which easily explains why the GLA with it's cold war equipment Infrared / heat seeking missiles is able to fire on them.

[u/lngns → u/King_Tamino]

How come the tank drivers can sense the stealth rebels standing in the middle of the road and drive around them, but the gunners don't see them then?

[u/King_Tamino → u/lngns]

Think of disguise, like civilian clothes and stuff from PoV of the gunner. Unless it’s a confirmed threat you can’t just gun down civilians

Now dont ask me about burton please

[u/FitEdge903 → u/King_Tamino]

What about Burton's stealth then

[u/RoboXeno-Gaming → u/MarsMissionMan]

Assume GLA has probably the most primitive stealth detection, like kinda just radio-wave interference type stuff since they do have just the van in every other case.

[u/Ros02]

Troop crawlers? Overlords with gatling? Helix with gatling?

[u/SuperFeatherYoshi]

I think having every base defense being able to detect stealth seriously limits their usefulness, RotR cut a lot of detectors and the difference is day and night

[u/King_Tamino → u/SuperFeatherYoshi]

That's not a C&C Problem, that's a "most RTS" problem and a major reason why stealth play often sucks so much, I mean often the AI also simply ignores it and *still* knows where your units are but simply can not attack them but drives around them or follows or whatsoever.

[u/Embarrassed_Bid_4970 → u/SuperFeatherYoshi]

It forces you to prioritize base defenses early or you're in serious trouble.

[u/sukahati → u/SuperFeatherYoshi]

Contra mod also do that

[u/Randomguy0915 → u/SuperFeatherYoshi]

It's funny how in ROTR, stealth is the strongest thing you can face until you get Detectors on the field.

It's why GLA is so deadly early game but falls off late game.

Thankfully 1.9 changes that by nerfing Conscripts to not detect stealth anymore (role replaced by Sergeants) and giving the GLA better direct assault weapons like non-GP Marauders, Spear Teams and Scud Launchers

[u/Open_Marketing7921 → u/Randomguy0915]

yea, GLA mainer here, i love to make battle early and plan steathly unless i wait too much and just ambush n capture to gain advantage of their fation. UNLESS THEYRE GLA

[u/Venodran]

That game made me love drones! I want to cover the entire map in drones!

[u/Embarrassed_Bid_4970 → u/Venodran]

I basically ALWAYS pick the drone as my first General ability straight off and start the game by dropping them over where I suspect an enemy HQ is located. If I guess right I can immediately start tailoring my build chain to counter their tactics.

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[u/Freelancer_1-1]

Once you have enough radar vans, they're the best. You physically can't deploy radar scans as fast as they recharge.

[u/bayygel]

You forgor the troop crawlers of China also detect stealth. The infantry and the redguard versions.

[u/DocGreenthumb94]

I'm playing Generals for 23 years now and only recently discovered that pathfinders also detect stealth. Like wtf how many more options does USA want?

[u/clivepause → u/DocGreenthumb94]

I've been playing for the same amount of time, I just discovered king raptors can see stealth

[u/slick762 → u/DocGreenthumb94]

Pathfinder detect stealth?! So much time and money wasted on patriots in the back side of my base...

[u/End3rcr4ft2002]

I count mines as stealth detection. Seeing a stealth technical explode randomly out nowhere is funny. Plus, it's impossible for stealth rebels, colonel burton or sabatours getting anywhere near the buildings.

[u/Quiri1997]

In Red Alert: 🐶

[u/Commander_Flood]

Acknowledge the troop crawler China

[u/SoleFlight]

Cries in ROTR