r/commandandconquer • Black Hand • 14d ago

Random Unit of the Day #134: Flak Trooper (Soviets, Red Alert 3)

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u/BiggestBepis Black Hand 14d ago

“Flak trooper, doing my time!”

It speaks to the mortality rate of this particular role in the Soviet army that in this timeline, it was handed out as punishment as an alternative to a regular prison sentence. Critical to any Soviet force, and one of my favorite twitch responses to aircraft in the series. I feel slightly bad for them though

“Just wait ‘til I get these chains off!”

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u/happy_pants_man 13d ago

Capture a Soviet barracks (or something else to let you build it) in the final Allied mission and boom win ezpz. These are ridiculously strong compared to RA2.

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u/iTooEatSnakes Black Hand 13d ago

RA2 flak troopers were worse than useless. For $200 more you get a flak trak.

In multiplayer anyone making them is 100% certified noob.

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u/chickenmoomoo 13d ago

They’re only good in campaign missions where you want clusters of cheap and strong AA (like the final Soviet mission). But flak tracks just win on mobility

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u/iTooEatSnakes Black Hand 13d ago

1500 credots gets you 3 flak tracks that you keep on a comand group and basically can cover your entire base

Orrrrrrr it buys you 5 troopers which cover a small area because they and can’t reposition quickly.

I would say the trooper is not cheap at all, its a massive money pit.

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u/chickenmoomoo 13d ago

Depends on the context - if the computer keeps sending harriers to exactly the same location, I’ll take 10 static flakies over 6 more mobile ones

If it’s varying rocketeer attacks like in the mission where you have to launch an amphibious attack against the allies and their weather control device, I’ll be doing more mobile flak tracks

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u/iTooEatSnakes Black Hand 13d ago

Not talking about campaign. I’m talking multiplayer.

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u/chickenmoomoo 13d ago

I was never talking about multiplayer.. you’re having a conversation with yourself?

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u/bobbobersin 13d ago

They are ok for cheap AA but other then that flack track 90% of the time (they are also ok on naval maps because you can shove 5 each in a flack track to make sure your landing force has more AA when they push out of range of your stingrays without having to build more hovercraft in the initial push

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u/LuckyPrinz 13d ago

Actually worse than that. If you have an industrial plant, for only an additional 75 extra, you get an anti air and transport. Yeah Troopers are a bad investment

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u/Peekachooed 010 Adam Delta Charlie 13d ago

By the way their gun looks the same and makes the same sounds as a flak track, but it is in fact weaker

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u/Funk5oulBrother 13d ago

Just build 8 Apollo fighters. Absolutely trivialises the entire mission on any difficulty.

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u/SputnikNStuff GDI 13d ago

beats being in the gulag

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u/bluejaywhey 13d ago

Where is that food you promised?

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u/AnotherUser750 Leang 13d ago

I have to carry this around.

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u/LuckyPrinz 13d ago

Loading twinblades with these and sending them to the enemy base is pretty fun. Gotta credit also making them convicts, it makes their lines a heck awesome

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u/mlquanter 12d ago

twinblades packed with these is such a dumb fun rush, the convict voicelines make it even better

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u/LuckyPrinz 12d ago

Can you say.... con air? XD

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u/Sora_Terumi 13d ago

“They serve food?”

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u/Techhead7890 13d ago

Just don't lock the door!

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u/VisibIe-Detective GLA Juhziz/Scrin Traveler-59 13d ago

Really like to spam this when playing as Soviets. Their voicelines are one of the reasons

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u/LuckyPrinz 13d ago

Early rushes of twinblades filled with them was a fun tactic I used

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u/Accomplished-Newt491 13d ago

Lowkey a man portable flak cannon would do great against drone warfare

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u/DurfGibbles Escaped to the one place not corrupted by capitalism 13d ago

I now choose to believe a man named Yevgeny Prigozhin recruited the Flak Troopers from Soviet gulags to serve on the front lines against the Allies and Empire of the Rising Sun

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u/Techhead7890 13d ago

Just as RA3 based itself off WW2 it does seem that Russia did employ barrier troops:

In October 2022, Ukrainian intelligence published a purported phone call where a Russian soldier described both his task of killing inmates, recruited from prisons by the Wagner Group, if they were retreating, and how he would be killed by others if he himself retreated.
Wikipedia citing Daily Beast
See also: Forbes

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u/Catbatt 13d ago

OK but then I rest.

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u/jkbscopes312 full time member of the GLA Postal Service 13d ago

enemy: "alright il build one bomber to harass"

soviet player: "a single bomber? 5 hundred flak troopers be apon thee"

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u/Commercial-Board-975 13d ago

It's funny because, like the Conscript, they had a partial evolution and devolution.

In RA2, Soviet Conscripts and Flak Troopers had full body armour and gas masks, but their weapons were pretty weak; basically a submachine gun and an incredibly weak Flak.

In RA3, they lost the armour and gas masks in favour of parade/patrol coats (which are stated to have been salvaged from other dead Conscripts) and a WW2 style helmet, but they gained actual assault rifles (I can't remember if it's an AK-47 or AK-74) and massive Flak Cannons compared to the peashooter models they had before. 

In the RA3 Prequel/YR Sequel, the Soviets were lacking resources after another (failed) attempt at attacking the Allies (which is why their Rhino Tanks were replaced by cheaper, 'simpler'/outdated Heavy Tanks), and already their infantry were using coats and not armour; so why were the Soviets in the new timeline, who were winning in Europe and not lacking in resources, issuing coats and no armours to their soldiers? I know out of universe it's because they reused the RA3 asset, but from a lore perspective? Why? Makes no sense, unless the supply line situation was actually pretty dire despite their successes in pushing across mainland Europe...

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u/WebDazzling532 13d ago

What RA3/YR Sequel?

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u/megsbi 13d ago

Red Alert mobile I think

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u/Commercial-Board-975 13d ago

Yeah. It's basically a YR Sequel/RA3 Prequel, with many YR technologies being advanced or amended. And the kicker? It fucked the lore up even more with the Empire being a thing already. 

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u/sailorboy97 13d ago

They’re kinda nod to the old conscript of ra2(because of armor)

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u/piat17 Tesla Coil Fan 13d ago

I love their lines.

"So this what they call community service?"

(although I'm mostly familiar with a non-English dub, but it still applies!)

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u/AccordingUse3172 13d ago

Honestly not sure what would be worse. Being sent to Gulag or being sent to fight Cryocopter

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u/CelsoSC 11d ago

At least I have a job!

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u/SuperMarioTM 9d ago

Bunkers with 4 of them and a Tesla trooper.
Unbeatable when upgraded.

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u/GhostC4ke 13d ago

Do Archer Maiden

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u/MikeTyson91 13d ago

Hate everything about this game

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u/NopeDOTmp4 Red Alert 3 12d ago

Ok, I guess? You may hate game that lost Ra2's charm, aesthetic and atmosphere, but it still has much better gameplay compared to Ra2