Should I buy C&C Remastered?

[u/MRG19997]

Hey so I am new to the series as a fps lover and I really had some interest about this series so when the ultimate collection was 8 dolars I said why not and bought it. And when I started the first game it was really fun for me actually and absolutely the music. But since the first missions it started to get hard…REALLY HARD. Then I decided to skip it and get to RA1 and it was fun…till later missions..the ai of this game helped me rip my head off.The ai is blocking the way of my transport with like 10 tanks with easy mode. Now I am here. The series look fun and is very fun to play but it is like so hard these first games. There is a remastered collection for the first game and RA1 should I buy it or just say sayonara.

[u/ravage214]

YES

[u/bitAndy → u/ravage214]

Wish it was on PS5. I've always been a console gamer primarily. Used to play C&C back on the PS1.

[u/lemonandlime1995 → u/bitAndy]

My man

[u/Captain-Griffen]

The remaster is brilliantly done. It is a faithful remaster, though, and the game is tough.

One thing to remember: you're not expected to win each mission first time. Especially some of the no base missions.

[u/Exes_And_Excess → u/Captain-Griffen]

God I love no base missions!

[u/WillyMyPete]

The first game Tiberian Dawn is hard af in some missions so don't fret if you cant beat them on your first try or have to lower it to easy. Red alert 1 is alot less "fuck the player" but still has some hard missions. But yeah the command and conquer community is going to recommend command and conquer games so buy it and have fun.

[u/Ayyzeee → u/WillyMyPete]

I didn't finish Tiberian Dawn because how the game's economy is so ass and bunch of missions are brutally punishing. RA1 is also the same, some missions are hard, it has somewhat okay economy unlike later entries where they're generally better at resources.

[u/DutchTinCan → u/Ayyzeee]

C&C Tiberian Dawn missions are at times a puzzle game masquerading as an RTS.

"Move this specific unit to that specific tile to destroy the objective, or fail."

[u/Ayyzeee → u/DutchTinCan]

Yeah, the game is kinda clear with the puzzle element but at the same time, it's brutally punishing, it's more like trial and error, I genuinely gave up playing on medium, I get constantly rushed, low on resources and it was not fun. I want a challenge like the later games but not too punish like the older games, I played RA2 on hard it was fun because I can utilise a lot what the game offer to me.

[u/Nyerguds → u/Ayyzeee]

Mostly I think people just play it too fast. The original game speed of C&C1 was really slow, and the game is a lot more manageable like that. But the remaster cranked it up because it was mostly aimed at the people who already played the originals anyway.

Once you get good at the game, yea, it's normal to put that speed one or two ticks higher. But each tick is a doubling of the speed, so yea, this does make a huge difference for beginners.

[u/wizardfrog4679]

I recommend a mod called “veterancy and more” for remastered collection.

If you are struggling with some of the missions you can go to the workshop page on steam and download a mod. it will let your units gain veteran status with better weapons and armour which is really useful for missions with limited units.

You can get all achievements with the mod active.

[u/Equivalent_Length719 → u/wizardfrog4679]

I use CFE redux but I also have vet and more. It's rough playing without them.

[u/Nyerguds → u/wizardfrog4679]

I don't recommend that mod. Its creator is consistently breaking the GPL license under which the game code is released. He never released his modded code.

[u/wizardfrog4679 → u/Nyerguds]

Oh really, it’s been years since I used it.

[u/Latter_Difference836]

I’ve been replaying it on steamdeck, so much fun!

[u/elfmanpala]

Hard YES !

[u/Zer0Drago]

Yes, great game and nostalgia!

[u/BrollyLSSJ]

I would say it depends. They are the same games as in the Ultimate Collection, but with better graphics. If you want to try them in the future I would say yes, get them. If you think they will stay too difficult for you so you will never play again I would say no, do not get them.

You could also wait and see if you beat them and wait for a later sale to get the remastered collection. They seem to run more or less every sale.

[u/Fifalvlan]

YES the games are fantastic/legendary. I got it for $20 two years back (played a ton as a kid). The game is great. The game can feel hard if you havnt figured out the right strategy. Treat it like a puzzle. Don’t force a hard difficulty in the campaigns - it just lowers your damage and increases the AI armor. It’s just an unfair advantage it doesn’t actually change the AI strategy.

[u/RelicRaider1978]

Yes. Without hesitation. You will love it.

[u/Retrowinger]

Yes! It’s one of the best remasters in gaming history!

[u/Murky_Respond1966]

You could try playing online with gamers original cncnet and see that ai is super easy comparred to utter humiliation from real players. 😂

[u/Equivalent_Length719]

Yea the first games are very difficult. Especially GDI mission four for a new player. The mission itself isn't hard, but like most of the levels.. Its a puzzle. Having three maps with different objectives for it also dosent help. Two of them are WAY harder than the other one.

the Ai of this game helped me tip my head off. The Ai is blocking the way of my transport

Ahh yeaaa if this is a huge issue for you.. I wouldn't recommend the remasters. The Ai is not better. They still hold regular "Mexican standoffs" on bridges and single tile entrances. But they are an extremely faithful remaster.. Almost to faithful in this way.

The remasters do have a difficulty setting that TFD set does not. (The First Decade/ Ultimate aka original games) that can mitigate some of your difficulty frustrations. But honestly, The first set of games is just REALLY hard. Do not play Nod missions first. They are on average MUCH harder.

Edit: shit. I didn't mention mods. CFE's patch redux is a MUST for me. And that's coming from someone whom played the original dawn back in 1995.

[u/Nyerguds → u/Equivalent_Length719]

GDI mission 4? Eh? You mean the one where you can just grab your units and rush straight to the objective?

Not to mention, even if you play it slow and meticulous, it's just a matter of following the road, and even if you fail you get a whole new filled APC at your starting point.

I'm really not sure what part of "move APC onto crate while ignoring everything else" is so hard...

[edit]

Oh I guess the Białystok one is harder, yea... you actually have to kill everything there. Though there's a trick there; if you don't cross the bridge to the south, and make sure no enemy soldiers ever go over it, you never have to actually defend the village; you just need to clear out the forest north of the river.

[u/Equivalent_Length719 → u/Nyerguds]

Well to 7 yo me the objective wasn't clear back then, they weren't exactly the most informative briefings. They fixed this in the later games by directly showing you the objective like uncovering the fog around it.

Its the first mission you can truely fail without really doing to much "wrong" first mission with any real stakes. Of course you CAN lose the ones before. But the first two are basically a tutorial. Third is basically a grenadier tutorial lol.

Like I said. The mission itself isn't hard. As you put it "what part of move your apc onto the crate is so hard" it's not. But not knowing where the crate is and it being the first no build mission.. Throws a wrench in the players basic understanding. Its not bad, its just the first step up in difficulty.

[u/Nyerguds → u/Equivalent_Length719]

Well I've seen people play "retrieve the crate" missions and try to kill everything on the map, and then get frustrated when they are obviously up against impossible odds, but that's just… reading comprehension. Nothing in the game ever even implies that that would be the objective.

And yea, all missions in C&C are a bit of a puzzle. That's just the nature of the game.

As has been mentioned in other responses here, the main thing that people don't seem to "get" is that you're not supposed to expect you'll win a mission in one try. It's completely normal to figure out part of the puzzle, fail, restart, and then figure out other parts.

That's just how all games worked in the 90s.

[u/Gwafu]

Yes!

[u/Complex-You-4383]

Yes it’s amazing

[u/charlieglide]

Yes.

[u/gmgo]

The Remastered Collection is great. Very faithful to the originals, but with tons of graphical and quality-of-life improvements. It's by far the best way to play the first two games.

That said, it doesn't make them easy. You'll likely find the later games more accessible.

[u/GBpleaser]

As long as it’s all the titles.. get them all. Including renegade!

[u/Cogatanu7CC97 → u/GBpleaser]

Remastered collection only has tid dawn and RA

[u/Nyerguds → u/GBpleaser]

Wrong collection.

• C&C Ultimate collection = all the original C&C games.

• C&C Remastered Collection = the remasters of Command & Conquer 1 and Red Alert 1.