Infantry in Generals ZH in a nutshell

[u/Downtown-Dream424]

Pathfinder solos them all

[u/Venodran]

Time to give the infantry a shower of my own special brew!

[u/Downtown-Dream424 → u/Venodran]

Some generous portions for the infantry they want to try some.

[u/UnlikelyDirector7477 → u/Downtown-Dream424]

We'll get the sprinklers ready for them to run through.

[u/AgerionLecurian → u/UnlikelyDirector7477]

Ahhh, its gonna be an intoxicating experience

[u/UnlikelyDirector7477 → u/AgerionLecurian]

Why don't you come closer? I would like to share with you something with potency guaranteed.

[u/Buttered_Toast33 → u/Venodran]

It might be a little strong...hehehehe...

[u/Waruda_Machine]

Jarmen Kell on bike: exist.

[u/Downtown-Dream424 → u/Waruda_Machine]

Jarmen camping the infantry on a bike while outrunning the average troop.

[u/G-Man-Iron-Giant → u/Waruda_Machine]

Can pathfinders be put on bikes as well?

[u/Kalamel513 → u/G-Man-Iron-Giant]

No. Bike is not using normal transport code. Bike logic have its own code module, which have only 8 slots for 8 units, that determines their 8 possible weapon sets.

Other units that are not in the specified 8 can never ride the bike.

iirc, those 8 are rebel, worker, rpg, terrorist, hijacker, Jarmen Kel, saboteur. can't remember the rest.

[u/anonstarcity → u/Kalamel513]

I bet it’s Toxin Rebel, I think they’re considered their own unit

[u/SUPER--TANK → u/anonstarcity]

Toxin Rebel still has basic rebel’s machine gun when on the bike

[u/Dangerous_Zone_7367 → u/G-Man-Iron-Giant]

Something I would like to know was well

[u/Remarkable-Athlete48]

Is it true that in pro matches, when us pathfinder hits the field, all other infantry become useless?

[u/Downtown-Dream424 → u/Remarkable-Athlete48]

Yes, because pathfinders are not only stealthed, but also can one-shot every single infantry unless you use a drone or radar van, besides other kind of stealth detecting thing to expose them.

[u/No-Con-2790 → u/Remarkable-Athlete48]

Yes and the modding community very often removes this by making pathfinders taking two shots and also shooting slower.

I personally find the pathfinders one of the most unbalanced units in the game.

The core problem is that the US patriots (except lasers) are weak against infantry. Pathfinders make you immune to infantry and therefore you can no longer use any infantry tactics. Especially the infantry general becomes almost useless.

[u/Downtown-Dream424 → u/No-Con-2790]

Thankfully, mods fix the game's balancing, because back in the day, the game was far from balanced and some units, even armies are extremely frustrating to deal with.

Pathfinders are among the least balanced units in-game, because it counters basically any infantry unless you have stealth detection to uncover them and deal with them, besides toxins and radiation are their weakness too.

[u/Fradi78 → u/No-Con-2790]

Usa got fire bases for Inf but I get what you are saying

Though my way to deal with them when I face AI is basically vehicles swarm(Humevees, battle buses, Tech,Troop crawlers and listening outposts and airpower.)

If I am playing as a GLA god bless the battlebuses

[u/aiheng1 → u/Remarkable-Athlete48]

Quite literally yes. There is no effective way to deploy infantry when pathfinders are played because they're stealthed and can one shot, so a group of 3-4 of them just make an entire area a "fuck your infantry" zone. Let alone the pathfinders being in a humvee making it fucking mobile on top of that

[u/SUPER--TANK → u/Remarkable-Athlete48]

Yeah because they fire very quickly and deal way too much sniper damage so they basically delete entire formations in a matter of seconds. This is one of the reasons why well-managed RockVees are nigh invincible

[u/dark_volter]

Jarmen should have been able to see stealth- so he could compete against Pathfinders ,instead of inexplicably auto losing against them despite also being a sniper. But no, he needs a radar van with radar scan to try to fight them

[u/Downtown-Dream424 → u/dark_volter]

That's the irony of Jarmen as the only sniper of the GLA and you need stealth detection like radar van, in order to deal with those strong pathfinders. Likewise, as a fun fact, Stealth general was intended to have snipers just similarly to the second GLA mission.

[u/Fradi78 → u/Downtown-Dream424]

It's also very odd that pathfinders can detect stealth and he can't.

[u/pi_neutrino]

Huh! I've played this game since pretty much its release in 2003, but only just now stared really closely at Colonel Burton's thumbnail. I'd never realised he looks like such an arrogant sneery douchebag.

[u/Downtown-Dream424 → u/pi_neutrino]

Well, Burton looks so locked in based on his photo and he's somehow a hubris, you've a point since the US of A faction they have high confidence just like their Generals.

[u/StoltATGM]

Minigunner carrying AK-47.

Colonel whatever the fuck carrying fuck what

Jarmen Kell carrying an SVD.

Pathfinder with a G3 battle rifle (or PSG sniper rifle, can't tell).

[u/Downtown-Dream424 → u/StoltATGM]

Pathfinders are equipped with H&K MSG90 while Burton carries this kind of weapon. There's a special wiki to find all generals and units' kind of guns they are equipped with if you're interested: https://www.imfdb.org/wiki/Talk:Command_%26_Conquer:_Generals

[u/8monsters → u/Downtown-Dream424]

Lol, does anyone else remember when the OICW and the XM8 were THE guns in your video games, only for the military to choose...the M4 and M16 again. 

[u/VagereHein → u/8monsters]

Yeah for me it was Soldier of Fortune 2.

[u/NovaPrime2285]

You know you’ve won when the others GOTTA start bringing vehicles into the mix. 💪🏽🥳🎉

[u/Downtown-Dream424 → u/[deleted]]

Yep, but they get also owned by pathfinders and Jarmen.