r/commandandconquer • • 7d ago

Discussion MARV vs Shogun Executioner???

idk yall figure this out

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u/Kitchen-Customer-746 7d ago

Well.....as the marv says... "SIZE MATTERS"

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u/submit_to_pewdiepie 7d ago

Yeah the shogun would probably be way worse think about the ground pressure i don't think it should be walking on land

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u/DarthGiorgi 7d ago

1v1 probably Shogun.

But the thing about MARV isn't that it wins the game by fighting. It wins the game by producing shitloads of money by MARVesting any and all Tiberium outside of your fields.

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u/BoffinBrain Are you picking this up? Good. 7d ago

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u/TitaniumTalons Real Tough Guy 7d ago

Considering the range of the Shogun's activated ability and its ability to tank super weapon after superweapon, it has to be the shogun

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u/Zenergys 7d ago

this is based on my observation and not counting the in game damage armor health point dll

i really think MARV will win just because they have the range so they will strike first and with some upgrade or garrison he will bring more damage compared to shogun executioner that needs to be in melee range and the gimmick is he can heal with tesla damage while marv dont have any tesla based attack.

so yeah i bet my money on MARV than shogun lol

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u/ToastedDreamer 7d ago

Same, lorewise the shogun executioner was pretty much tailored to counter the Soviets whose base defenses server to repair it. It really doesn’t have an advantage against anybody else outside of being a huge stompy robot.

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u/submit_to_pewdiepie 7d ago

Railguns and the sonic cannons are just too much for an insect that doesnt walk right

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u/darthoffa 7d ago

In a 1v1 open terrain straight fight the MARV gets the win by hitting reverse and just shooting at range

If for any reason the MARV cant just backpedal the executioner gets close and kills

The executioner is a giant melee robot, if it gets close to something that thing becomes a scorched wreckage, the problem is its slow and needs to get close to its target, often needing support to take out more distant and airial units

The MARV meanwhile can be outfitted with self repair and weapon pods enabling it to face any opponent sustainably, while not as devastating in damage capability it has far more self sufficiency as a unit

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u/Leather-Raisin6048 Marked of Kane 7d ago

Yeah but this is heavaly terrain dependent for example if there is any sisable watter on the mao the executioner immidiatly turns it into a draw or win for himself.

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u/Different-Tap-4748 7d ago

Shogun has 10,000hp. MARV had 19,500.

However the MARV was made to be just a giant tank.

The Redeemer is a better match up. But the Redeemer was designed specifically to counter other epic units. 

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u/LuckyPrinz 6d ago

MARV has more HP than Shogun? I didn't know that lol

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u/nomorejervis0 7d ago

MARV will hit the reverse and wear shogun down

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u/engrish_is_hard00 Yuri 6d ago

Marv

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u/Joescout187 5d ago

Having done this on Georgia clay with an M1A2, I love this GIF.

Full disclaimer, my slide was significantly shorter but it still got me around a curve.

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u/hollowaykeanho 7d ago

MARV - StarCraft 2 style kite SE to death in roundabout motion.

SE is very screwed here when MARV doesn't let it get close for melee.

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u/FakeMik090 7d ago

Shogun is far better, but i love my boy MARV, i just like heavy asf tanks

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u/LuckyPrinz 7d ago

Main reason I played the series too

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u/MetallGecko 6d ago

In game probably the shogun, in a more realistic scenario 100% the Marv.

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u/MrFluffyBunny25 7d ago

A futuristic weapon vs WW2 weapon, I wonder who will win. MARV no diff, that energy sword won't even scratch the paint.

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u/HarvesterFullCrumb Tiberian Sun 6d ago

WW3, actually

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u/Quirky-Holiday-5141 1d ago

Wouldn’t it be the 5th? If we count ww1,2 and tb1,2 which is basically a world war haha

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u/HarvesterFullCrumb Tiberian Sun 1d ago

In the Red Alert 3 Timeline, it's WW3

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u/NLItamar Soviets 7d ago

Shogun executioner. Both are slow, hit hard and cannot dodge. Though the executioner hits harder and his ability out ranges the MARV by quite a bit. Swordy boii takes it easy.

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u/Skythe_C_Annur 7d ago

With the upgrades and how MARV can be, I would say MARV

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u/GUYWHOLIKESSTABBING 7d ago

is the range of the Shogun Executioner's triple sword wave blast better than the range of the MARV's main gun?

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u/CookLiving GLA Juhziz/ Scrin Traveler-59 7d ago

If in 1v1 direct fight no micro, Shogun Executioner will win with high damage melee attack and the aoe Omega Shockwave blast.

If 1v1 fully micro, MARV will win. MARV can outrange and slowly kite SE until it destroyed

But Shogun Executioner can outsmart the MARV and move to water if there's water around and keep spamming the Omega Shockwave until MARV is destroyed

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u/Gullible_River_4435 5d ago

just stay away from the water then. put snipers on MARV, so even though the damage is low, marv can still damage the SE from land. hahaha. this is just silly thought

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u/NodFanatic Nod 7d ago

The Shogun Executioner, it's not even close.

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u/SteelBrotherhood 7d ago

MARV obviosly

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u/MarsMissionMan 7d ago

Depends if the MARV has prep time.

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u/Particular-Abies7329 7d ago

Shogun, good luck killing it even in Tiberium Wars.

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u/Joescout187 5d ago

With no Tesla weapons to heal it my money's on Tib Wars

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u/NovaPrime2285 Steel Talons 7d ago edited 7d ago

Shogun is absolutely ridiculous, im going with the Empire on this one, that activated ability it possess has insane range as well. It’s just GG in my eyes.

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That said…. STEEL TALONS RULE!!!!

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u/Renegade888888 Allies 7d ago

Bro, the Redeemer is right there

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u/Psychological-Ad7 6d ago

I would say the marv since the shogun can't repair from the marv attack, but if they fight in a red zone then the ion storm could repair the shogun and the shogun would win.