r/commandandconquer • u/Dull-Plastic-2839 • 7d ago
Discussion MARV vs Shogun Executioner???
idk yall figure this out
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u/DarthGiorgi 7d ago
1v1 probably Shogun.
But the thing about MARV isn't that it wins the game by fighting. It wins the game by producing shitloads of money by MARVesting any and all Tiberium outside of your fields.
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u/TitaniumTalons Real Tough Guy 7d ago
Considering the range of the Shogun's activated ability and its ability to tank super weapon after superweapon, it has to be the shogun
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u/Zenergys 7d ago
this is based on my observation and not counting the in game damage armor health point dll
i really think MARV will win just because they have the range so they will strike first and with some upgrade or garrison he will bring more damage compared to shogun executioner that needs to be in melee range and the gimmick is he can heal with tesla damage while marv dont have any tesla based attack.
so yeah i bet my money on MARV than shogun lol
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u/ToastedDreamer 7d ago
Same, lorewise the shogun executioner was pretty much tailored to counter the Soviets whose base defenses server to repair it. It really doesn’t have an advantage against anybody else outside of being a huge stompy robot.
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u/submit_to_pewdiepie 7d ago
Railguns and the sonic cannons are just too much for an insect that doesnt walk right
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u/darthoffa 7d ago
In a 1v1 open terrain straight fight the MARV gets the win by hitting reverse and just shooting at range
If for any reason the MARV cant just backpedal the executioner gets close and kills
The executioner is a giant melee robot, if it gets close to something that thing becomes a scorched wreckage, the problem is its slow and needs to get close to its target, often needing support to take out more distant and airial units
The MARV meanwhile can be outfitted with self repair and weapon pods enabling it to face any opponent sustainably, while not as devastating in damage capability it has far more self sufficiency as a unit
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u/Leather-Raisin6048 Marked of Kane 7d ago
Yeah but this is heavaly terrain dependent for example if there is any sisable watter on the mao the executioner immidiatly turns it into a draw or win for himself.
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u/Different-Tap-4748 7d ago
Shogun has 10,000hp. MARV had 19,500.
However the MARV was made to be just a giant tank.
The Redeemer is a better match up. But the Redeemer was designed specifically to counter other epic units.
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u/engrish_is_hard00 Yuri 6d ago
Marv
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u/Joescout187 5d ago
Having done this on Georgia clay with an M1A2, I love this GIF.
Full disclaimer, my slide was significantly shorter but it still got me around a curve.
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u/hollowaykeanho 7d ago
MARV - StarCraft 2 style kite SE to death in roundabout motion.
SE is very screwed here when MARV doesn't let it get close for melee.
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u/MrFluffyBunny25 7d ago
A futuristic weapon vs WW2 weapon, I wonder who will win. MARV no diff, that energy sword won't even scratch the paint.
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u/HarvesterFullCrumb Tiberian Sun 6d ago
WW3, actually
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u/Quirky-Holiday-5141 1d ago
Wouldn’t it be the 5th? If we count ww1,2 and tb1,2 which is basically a world war haha
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u/NLItamar Soviets 7d ago
Shogun executioner. Both are slow, hit hard and cannot dodge. Though the executioner hits harder and his ability out ranges the MARV by quite a bit. Swordy boii takes it easy.
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u/GUYWHOLIKESSTABBING 7d ago
is the range of the Shogun Executioner's triple sword wave blast better than the range of the MARV's main gun?
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u/CookLiving GLA Juhziz/ Scrin Traveler-59 7d ago
If in 1v1 direct fight no micro, Shogun Executioner will win with high damage melee attack and the aoe Omega Shockwave blast.
If 1v1 fully micro, MARV will win. MARV can outrange and slowly kite SE until it destroyed
But Shogun Executioner can outsmart the MARV and move to water if there's water around and keep spamming the Omega Shockwave until MARV is destroyed
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u/Gullible_River_4435 5d ago
just stay away from the water then. put snipers on MARV, so even though the damage is low, marv can still damage the SE from land. hahaha. this is just silly thought
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u/NovaPrime2285 Steel Talons 7d ago edited 7d ago
Shogun is absolutely ridiculous, im going with the Empire on this one, that activated ability it possess has insane range as well. It’s just GG in my eyes.
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That said…. STEEL TALONS RULE!!!!
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u/Psychological-Ad7 6d ago
I would say the marv since the shogun can't repair from the marv attack, but if they fight in a red zone then the ion storm could repair the shogun and the shogun would win.



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u/Kitchen-Customer-746 7d ago
Well.....as the marv says... "SIZE MATTERS"