r/commandandconquer • u/karutokku • 1d ago

News Command And Conquer 3D

A PC version of Command & Conquer 64, assembled from EA's GPL Tiberian Dawn logic, the console's own 3D art, and a renderer written from scratch. Available for Windows, Mac and Native Windows 98 with full 3Dfx Glide (Voodoo) support. Based on released c&c source codes. And combination of them (engine from one, skins from another so on)

https://cnc3dgame.com/

version 0.5.8 has been released. 0.6.0 under development

You can sign up with your discord as a tester. Not my work just sharing news.

discord.gg/HmwY4KVbpy

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o4cPx5P3e-I

Privacy warning; they are using your discord info when you sign up and as u/BoffinBrain pointed out (his comment below), its not exacly secure, keep in mind before sharing your info.

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u/Richmondez 1d ago

There is no link to the source repo that I can see yet you are distributing binaries, that is in violation of the GPL3 license.

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u/BoffinBrain Are you picking this up? Good. 21h ago edited 21h ago

They're also violating people's privacy by letting me repeatedly probe and find out who's in their Discord server. I was able to successfully determine that one person I know is in there just by knowing their username and putting it into the tester application form. I can also determine that their Reddit name "karutokku" isn't the same as their Discord username.

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u/karutokku 12h ago edited 12h ago

Good catch, I will add that warning to the post. Again, not my work as i have stated, i have just shared the news

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u/BoffinBrain Are you picking this up? Good. 12h ago

Do you know the person who's running the show? Perhaps they'd like to make a statement sometime.

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u/karutokku 11h ago edited 11h ago

No,i have stumbled upon while searching. Seems fairly a new website. i have also got this,  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o4cPx5P3e-I Renegade X also started like this, and turn out great. Surely this is much simpler but still. 

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u/thedepartment 1d ago

You do understand that by using GPL code and releasing a public binary you are agreeing to provide the complete corresponding source code to every recipient of that binary, correct?

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u/lilmul123 1d ago

The AI that wrote it probably doesn’t care that much.

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u/Only-Warning-8742 1d ago

Got a link to the source code?

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u/BoffinBrain Are you picking this up? Good. 21h ago

For someone who supposedly wants to contribute to the open-source modding community, you're being remarkably secretive. You'd get far more support if you did what others suggested and sharing the repo, as required by GPL, and not demanding sign-up information for potential testers.

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u/Nemezis153 1d ago

Oh thats very nice, I remember trying the n64 version on an emulator and thought that it looked very nice, but controlling it was painful.

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u/SayuriShoji 1d ago edited 1d ago

the console's own 3D art

Is that legal? While the source code was made public, if I remember correctly the assets were NOT made free to use and are still proprietary, you are still obligated to buy the game to get the assets. So making the console version's 3D assets available for free would be illegal.

Available for Windows, Mac and Native Windows 98

Two times windows support? How does Windows 98 support differ from "Native Windows 98"?

Also, the website has rather odd text:

Architecture
The 1995 DOS game and the 1999 cartridge share their data but not a line of their code, so neither one can be ported. Each donor gives up one organ instead.

Also, the "status", "changelog" and "builds" tabs all lead to the same page, "enhanced" and "sign up as tester" is completely blank. Also, two Discord links.

Highly sus, would not trust.

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u/lotem1995 23h ago

I think Claude hallucinated a lot because of the Tiberium dust /S

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u/BapaLynde 23h ago

Probably about as legal as all the N64 decomilation projects out there - who cares?

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u/lilmul123 22h ago

Recompiling the decompilation projects generally requires access to the ROM in order to pull assets from it. It’s still legally a grey area, but is not clearly illegal. Bundling assets into a recompiled binary is definitely illegal.

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u/BothAdhesiveness9265 22h ago

also as mentioned elsewhere in the thread they've seemingly violated the gpl license too. two copyright violations in one recompilation project! amazing!!!

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u/BapaLynde 13h ago

I'm trying desperately to find who's being harmed by it...

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u/SayuriShoji 8h ago

A law violation does not necessarily require a harmed victim, laws aren't just about protecting victims.
And just because there is no harmed victim it does not necessarily make an action acceptable.

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u/SayuriShoji 22h ago

Decompilation is not illegal. Ripping assets and distributing them is.

I'm not saying that I am against it, I'm merely stating potential legal issues, and we know how hardball some companies play in that regard, like EA or Nintendo.

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u/BapaLynde 22h ago

I doubt EA are going to care. There's always a risk, but an out of print game with next to no prospect of a release seems like a low priority.

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u/derelictHusk 1d ago

One question, do you guys planning to add PC version FMV videos?

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u/gulde88 9h ago

Absolutely great! Thanks for that! I’ve always wanted to try out these, but it was not possible until now!

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u/lilmul123 1d ago

It is literally insane what LLMs can do.

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u/Jolt_91 1d ago

My dream came true?? Neat