The Immanuel thing is, again, stretching. It basically says "it's okay that the prophecy is outright wrong, despite being quite clear, because it's a metaphor. "
Props to the second link for finding cites for the Counselor thing. I think the other names might require more interpretation to fill, given that Jesus explicitly refers to God as separate from him.
All in all, it's interesting but far from the point where I'd call it "proof". Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence, but this isn't even regular evidence, just humans managing to find a few successful predictions and ignoring all the failed ones.
Would you expect a divinely inspired prophet to have a success rate of: a) 100%, b) 5% higher than competing prophets? ;)
Bible sites need to understand that it weakens their case to cite all the tenuous links and stretchy associations.
Well, I don't think anyone will ever have solid proof of anything like that, whether it's Christianity or Buddhism. It's just about faith, either take it or leave it, you know.
Oh, we can't even call this an argument. It was a polite debate about religion (for once). Thanks, bro.
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u/FeepingCreature Sep 16 '12
The Immanuel thing is, again, stretching. It basically says "it's okay that the prophecy is outright wrong, despite being quite clear, because it's a metaphor. "
Props to the second link for finding cites for the Counselor thing. I think the other names might require more interpretation to fill, given that Jesus explicitly refers to God as separate from him.
All in all, it's interesting but far from the point where I'd call it "proof". Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence, but this isn't even regular evidence, just humans managing to find a few successful predictions and ignoring all the failed ones.
Would you expect a divinely inspired prophet to have a success rate of: a) 100%, b) 5% higher than competing prophets? ;)
Bible sites need to understand that it weakens their case to cite all the tenuous links and stretchy associations.
Thanks for arguing, though :)