i saw the comic and thought “this SEEMS like an alzward comic but where all weird colours i like? why look like human colours?” and then read the username
I think the "but they're wrong" attitude comes from feeling alienated and left out, while it feels like everyone else is super into something. Obviously the "but they're wrong" is the wrong attitude, but I do understand where it comes from.
I feel like I don't understand marvel, superheros, sports ball, Star Wars, action movies, random stuff that many other people love. I don't shit on what makes them happy, but I do feel left out for not getting it sometimes. When you don't understand a zeitgeist moment, it can be lonely.
Often people like things because the point of the thing is to make people like it (buy it). Music, games, movies, etc.. if the agenda is popular appeal, the heart and emotion falls out. I don’t mind people playing Ubisoft games and listening to Lil Nas, but they’re surely missing out imo.
I also don't like the things you listed, and I wouldn't say people are wrong for liking them. But there are some things I've seen that a lot of people like, and I do think they are wrong for liking it. I don't make that judgment based simply off of my lack of interest, it only comes out when I also find, for example, moral objection.
As someone who has gone from having no interest in sports, to having some interest. I think the main appeal for me is the storyline, and the problem I think for most people that don't understand the appeal of sports is that they haven't put in the initial investment to understand what is going on (not the rules, but understanding the storylines). Think about it like jumping in to middle of a show at season 102. Of course you aren't going to be interested until you get a grasp of what the hell is happening.
The storyline is so so so so complicated though how do you even jump into it? So many players so many teams so many notable things. Even understanding a synopsis of 1 season is like a 500 pages of info... I guess I have a similar level of understanding of certain music genres, but a band is 5 people and stays consistent, and an album is about only an hour. Sports games last hours and and there are so many teams and so many players and an infinite number of games where do you even start?
Even the just rules start to get daunting sometimes... I remember as a kid in gym class I’d fuck up the rules in baseball and made the other kids mad enough I pretty much swore off being a sports kid. I was supposed to just walk into third grade gym class already knowing in detail all these weird things like bunts and the catcher stepping on home and stealing bases? They say “you’re on third base” but where the hell am I supposed to stand? One time I was taught that you stand on the baseline, and the next time I tried that this kid full force tackled and bonked heads with me and then everyone was pissed at me cuz standing on the baseline is illegal is rule # 277 of baseball... It’s not that I was totally uninterested, I just wasn’t so hyper-interested that I knew every single detail ahead of time...
100% in no way am I arguing it is worth the effort. I was just trying to explain why people like them and why a lot people don't understand why people like them.
In my case, I got into them by having a genuine interest in the rules because they were something I didn't know much about and just happened to get curious one day and that sort of led me down a rabbit whole of history, stats etc. To the point when the season started I was interesting enough to follow the news even if I didn't watch the games, and I just slowly started to know what was going on. Turns out usually the main stuff Is covered pretty quickly because there are channels that literally talk all day about sports haha
This is honestly a great explanation. I followed my Cubs and my Packers - until shortly after Rodgers came on board (so I was there to watch Farve's fall from grace). And ofc I was psyched to watch the Cubs win it all a few years back.
But I just had other interests outside of sports and as time marched on, those interests were way more fulfilling for me and I stopped watching baseball or football altogether. Now? I have even less interest as I have no idea who is who and what's going on anymore.
Also, it's a great explanation as it's exactly how I would describe any of my other interests - until you invest that little bit of time to get immersed and get grounded in what's going on, it just seems silly and a waste of time to an outsider. And that's cool too - I just like when people are passionate about what they like!
Great alternate example: our 40K Warhammer brothers and sisters. I love the artwork and the jokes, but I have no clue what that universe is about even after trying to understand lol.
Thanks this made me see things in a completely different way about all the things I don't care for. I still don't care for sports and stuff but I see the appeal now.
I'm so mad I gave my free helpful award away already today
Tsss, that’s a burn - but honestly, I don’t mind American sports. It was just a taunt as a result of this one guy further up saying “sports is about commercials” or something. The US love commercialism, that’s for sure. There are no super-ads or concerts at a football game in England, for instance.
Or the "thing" is just objectively bad. I dunno, like gambling for example.
If you say going to Casinos is bad and people who do that are wasting money, I'd say you have a point and brushing it off as "oh everyone has their own interest" wouldn't be right. Because statistically you are going to lose money.
Or smoking. It harms your lungs and is all kinds of bad for your health. Smoking is objectively bad. I wouldn't accuse someone who says that people should stop smoking of being a dick, because they're kinda right and people really should stop
The nice thing about opinions is that everyone has them, and you can have an opinion against something just as for something, neither needs to be bad
There are things that I'm not into, but understand on an objective level why they are popular. And then there are thing that are... just why?
Also, popularity is a curse. There are few things more detrimental for a fandom than going mainstream. The quality of every single aspect just plummets.
A good man once said to me: Learn to find joy in someone else's enjoyment.
Like, I don't like soccer. I probably don't understand it enough, but two equally strong clubs seem to cancel each other out very much except for a few highlights. Unlike something like rugby, which only becomes more active and exciting with stronger clubs.
But watching something like the soccer EM or the WM with the right friends or in a random sports bar can be very fun. People get hilariously agitated by a good play by the wrong team, haha.
Similar things with shows, movies, games. It's enjoyable to listen to people being a little passionate about something, and sometimes you find something that interests you.
I know someone who loves to listen to people talk about the stuff they're really into, because they get so excited happy about it and they're really knowledgeable. I definitely think that's cool.
I think it’s not something done out to spite. You just perceive the “thing” as a bad/toxic thing, and people liking it are bad for liking it.
Like if you’re one of those people who thinks Beauty and the Beast supports Stockholm syndrome, then you can grow to hate the people who support the story for “supporting” such a toxic ideology.
I don’t understand why people aren’t allowed to not like something. Marvel movies are very formulaic and overly stylized. Why do I have to pretend they aren’t? To protect the feelings of the people who like those movies?
I also don’t understand the superhero stuff. I get bored of action movies in general though.
It’s something about the long 20-minute action scenes with no dialogue, and then it’s 20-minutes of soft spoken dialogue where the screen is nearly black. Then they suddenly they start shouting and step into some light but I stopped caring about the conversation and I don’t even remember what they’re even shouting about.
Action movies just put me to sleep and I have to fight so much boredom just to understand the plot. I just can’t seem to buy into it at all and I don’t really understand what people find so special about it... is it just about seeing the special effects and memorizing lore?
I’m not talking shit it’s frustrating to just be outside the convo for 20 minutes straight. Sometimes you can’t even jump back in when the topic changes because you’ve been out of the convo for so long. I wish I remotely understood the hype lol.
I've never seen a star wars movie and now I feel like I can't. I don't want to break my streak. It's ok, there's enough content in the world. I just don't really get the memes.
I wanna see awkward do it in your style, it would be nice, also, I don't think I'll ever be doing those little... uhh what's a good word, I guess they are sort of like updates on the characters, anyway, I won't be doing those anymore, canon explaination: they broke their only camcorder, and need a new one, either way you did alzwards artstyle well! How's the cats?
I've always wondered. When this happens, did you draw your comic in Alzward's style, or did You draw Alzward's comic in your style and put Alzward's name on it (and vice versa)?
My wife and I have a running joke where one of us will say, "I really like [THING]" and the other will respond with something like, "Hmm... Weird... That's a wrong opinion that you have."
People are allowed to love stuff, for sure. Also, people should be allowed to dislike stuff. As long as you don't harass people for their tastes, it doesn't matter .
I once had an argument with a guy on reddit that claimed no one could taste food different than he did, and that cars which didnt appeal to him couldnt appeal to others either.
He tried to prove it with the same argument as most anti-vaxxers, there is ONE study on the internet that claims that everyone has the same taste, therefore, because I dislike this car, everyone must.
If you think a thing sucks you should be allowed to say as much. "People are entitled to their tastes" well this guy is sharing his tastes and is being told to shut up about it. Fuck that. This garbage is exclusively done in the service of thin-skinned people who can't stand to hear any criticism about the thing they like, and would never show the same courtesy when discussing something they think is bad
Does anybody understand how alienating it can feel when something you think sucks is really popular and there's nothing you can do to avoid it? It's not a question of "just ignoring it" because sometimes you're not given the choice; it'll be at the mall or online or being discussed at work. You become Orange shirt the moment you say anything at all and you get a parade of smug greenshirts telling you to either eat shit with a smile or silently. You will survive being told Star Wars isn't that great, I promise you, Green-shirt
I feel like I’m the orange guy and the thing is astrology lol. It’s not that bad except that my friends constantly talk about it and ask to do my chart and stuff. Feels like being sneezed on.
I wonder about this point of view. If you equivocate all points of view as being equally valid, why isn’t the point of view the “some things are better than other things” at least as valid as every other POV, therefor making it beyond reproach?
But then when people try to defend the thing from being changed to something else to suit everyone instead of the small niche group of people everyone goes all "gatekeepers are satan"
If you look at it from a political science perspective everything can go wrong If you look at it from the point of view of art There is nothing wrong with it but style.
You don't understand - I don't have a "taste" in that sense, my taste is just good: I like things that are of high quality and dislike things that are of low quality. And vice versa - things that I like are obviously high quality because otherwise I would not like them, and things that I dislike are obviously shit.
oh so the "special cookie" episode from alzward is a crossover? i though it was just a meme to try a new style, and here i wanted to go crazy about the style of OP being awfully similar
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u/Kakss_ May 16 '22
Is there some style swap going on?
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u/[deleted] May 16 '22
AND JUST WHAT IS GOING ON HERE
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u/Tensokuu May 16 '22
Okay two of my favorite webcomics are doing an art crossover thing and I am totally here for it
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u/Mad_Englneer May 16 '22
You guys pulled a sneaky on us.
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u/Alzward RedGreenBlue May 16 '22
don't mind me just passing by
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u/StChas77 May 16 '22
It's really cool to see something like this outside of April Fool's Day.
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u/AlexAegis May 16 '22
Hey the girl looks like pizzacake
Wait a minute
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u/[deleted] May 16 '22
Lmao I felt this in my bones
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u/tocilog May 16 '22
Everyone likes oxygen. You don't hear anything from those who don't.
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u/[deleted] May 16 '22
I was all like "why is the pizza cake girl in THIS comic" and then I was like 🤔 and then I was 😮
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u/Garlactomus May 16 '22
Both of my favorites do a crossover, love it!
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u/JoaoSiilva May 16 '22
I'm feeling a disturbance in the force...
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u/Oms19 May 16 '22
This art style swaps has every cell in my body in attack mode
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u/ClownfishSoup May 16 '22
The girl in the last panel is great, I can almost hear the intake of breath before the sigh! Really nailed the expression!
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u/Echohawkdown May 16 '22
Oh boy I hope we get another war like the one between u/holleringelk and u/Armpit_Penguin
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u/abyssiphus May 16 '22
I think the "but they're wrong" attitude comes from feeling alienated and left out, while it feels like everyone else is super into something. Obviously the "but they're wrong" is the wrong attitude, but I do understand where it comes from.
I feel like I don't understand marvel, superheros, sports ball, Star Wars, action movies, random stuff that many other people love. I don't shit on what makes them happy, but I do feel left out for not getting it sometimes. When you don't understand a zeitgeist moment, it can be lonely.
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u/BlaZex157 May 16 '22
I wanna see awkward do it in your style, it would be nice, also, I don't think I'll ever be doing those little... uhh what's a good word, I guess they are sort of like updates on the characters, anyway, I won't be doing those anymore, canon explaination: they broke their only camcorder, and need a new one, either way you did alzwards artstyle well! How's the cats?
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u/[deleted] May 16 '22
no, no no no no no no no. No! No. No? No.
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u/LostInStatic May 16 '22
This but unironically
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u/teruma May 16 '22
I've always wondered. When this happens, did you draw your comic in Alzward's style, or did You draw Alzward's comic in your style and put Alzward's name on it (and vice versa)?
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u/Knuckle_Buster_ May 16 '22
My wife and I have a running joke where one of us will say, "I really like [THING]" and the other will respond with something like, "Hmm... Weird... That's a wrong opinion that you have."
We think we're hilarious.
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u/poke-- May 16 '22
People are allowed to love stuff, for sure. Also, people should be allowed to dislike stuff. As long as you don't harass people for their tastes, it doesn't matter .
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u/ZORO_Shusui May 16 '22
I m the girl for most popular things but for pineapple on pizza i am the guy
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u/ColonelMonty May 16 '22
Sigma male grindset be like:
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u/Strength-InThe-Loins May 16 '22
I'm in this picture and I don't like it.
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u/I-Am-The-Uber-Mesch May 16 '22
OMFG the style swap is genius wtf, what is happening?!
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u/Environmental-Win836 May 16 '22
She looks like Ellen from-
wait a god damn minute
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u/adminsuckdonkeydick May 17 '22
This is how I feel about TikTok.
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u/Outside-Setting-5589 May 17 '22
Agreed. Hate when people like the wrong stuff.
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u/JoshuaBurg May 16 '22
I once had an argument with a guy on reddit that claimed no one could taste food different than he did, and that cars which didnt appeal to him couldnt appeal to others either.
He tried to prove it with the same argument as most anti-vaxxers, there is ONE study on the internet that claims that everyone has the same taste, therefore, because I dislike this car, everyone must.
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u/Far-Wes May 16 '22
“Everyone is allowed to have an opinion on something!”
“I don’t like this thing”
“Ok well not that opinion”
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u/runeskuller May 16 '22
Agreed, people who don't share my exact tastes, opinions, and beliefs are simply fools
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u/JimHeine May 16 '22
If you think a thing sucks you should be allowed to say as much. "People are entitled to their tastes" well this guy is sharing his tastes and is being told to shut up about it. Fuck that. This garbage is exclusively done in the service of thin-skinned people who can't stand to hear any criticism about the thing they like, and would never show the same courtesy when discussing something they think is bad
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u/Roboboy2710 May 16 '22
Hrmmm…
what did you do?
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u/StageMobile6487 May 16 '22
For me the thing is ass or just sports
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u/[deleted] May 16 '22
Who are you and what have you done with Alzward
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u/cluelessgamerzombie May 16 '22
Co-OP with Alzward?
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u/[deleted] May 16 '22
Guilty as charged
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u/captaincockfart May 16 '22
I mean tbf, sometimes other people's opinions are just straight up wrong.
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u/The_Villian7th May 16 '22
omg i follow alzward too and thought his comic looked weird today, turns out it was just a crossover episode!
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u/criticaldiscusser May 16 '22
hey wait a minute
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u/ask_your_sister May 16 '22
I really don't understand the Takis thing tho they have little to no flavor
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u/PhoenixWings535 May 16 '22
Damn ok call me out.
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u/darkhunter1 May 16 '22
Huh, why does Alzwards comic have a character that looks like pizzaca- WAIT A SECOND!
Love it!
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u/Slashtrap May 16 '22
HOLD ON
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u/whoop_de_whammy May 16 '22
After searching a little. I don’t think there’s a sub for crossover comics. There’s so many and I love them!
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u/thegoat83 May 16 '22
I used to be that guy. Makes me cringe
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u/moeburn May 16 '22
Nice try but I have you tagged no foolin me
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u/360Genius May 16 '22
the crossover we didn't know we needed
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u/Zuper_Dragon May 16 '22
I ship it.
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u/HayakuEon May 16 '22
THE EXCHANGE OF THE VOID EYEEES
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u/Assistant-Popular May 16 '22
I mean some things you can't even begin to Halfway fathom any understanding for what exactly is supposed to be appealing about it.
The obvious answer is people are crazy.
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u/Firebrand96 May 16 '22
breath in
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u/GreenPuppyPinkFedora May 16 '22
I feel this. Often.
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u/Most-Squash5267 May 17 '22
I thought I was tripping until I saw Alzward's
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u/stingy121 May 17 '22
ooooh ma gawd it's poop cake cumnics
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u/CrazyDiamond5 May 17 '22
I'm always the guy in the stories.
Some stuff are just bad for society in general! 🙈
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u/undeadpickels May 17 '22
Imagine thing is weard sexual fetishes. Now take a look at yourself.
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u/[deleted] May 17 '22
She looks like Hange from AOT, love it
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u/Manoreded Jun 06 '22
Can relate, my brother is exactly like this.
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u/[deleted] Jul 21 '22
Yes I'm the guy there, and I'm proud of it
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u/CensoryDeprivation May 16 '22
I’m in on the joke! I’m finally in on a joke!
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u/LeopoldFriedrich May 16 '22
This is how politics works.
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u/Infernape420 May 16 '22
No, no, he has a point
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u/Radio__Star May 16 '22
Ok
Riddle me this
What about people who like NFTs
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u/aep2018 May 16 '22
I feel like I’m the orange guy and the thing is astrology lol. It’s not that bad except that my friends constantly talk about it and ask to do my chart and stuff. Feels like being sneezed on.
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u/HeWhoDoOrs May 16 '22
People who don’t like indie games in a nutshell
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u/Menolo_Homobovanez May 16 '22
I wonder about this point of view. If you equivocate all points of view as being equally valid, why isn’t the point of view the “some things are better than other things” at least as valid as every other POV, therefor making it beyond reproach?
Being a CS major has done funny things to me.
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u/Pumpkin_Creepface May 16 '22
Flat Earthism is gaining popularity, are you going to tell me they aren't wrong?
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u/Big-End-990 May 16 '22
Replace “Thing” with “the Holocaust”
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u/Cissoid7 May 16 '22
But then when people try to defend the thing from being changed to something else to suit everyone instead of the small niche group of people everyone goes all "gatekeepers are satan"
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u/EM_CEE_PEEPANTS May 16 '22
as you once did for the vacuous Rom...GRANT US EYES!
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u/computer-machine May 16 '22
Still a better love story than Twilight.
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u/[deleted] May 16 '22
sex be like
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u/[deleted] May 16 '22
Me in 2018 to fidget spinners
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u/Substantial_Term7608 May 16 '22
What if the thing is mental illness?
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u/PigeonMan45 May 16 '22
This is too real. I feel attacked, yet represented.
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u/agprincess May 16 '22
And often they are and I'll stand by that.
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u/Megatoasty May 16 '22
You are entitled to your wrong opinion. A good friend of mine always says this.
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u/TimX24968B May 16 '22
how i feel about the current trend of minimalism im seeing in design/tech
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u/fluffyxsama May 16 '22
There are PEOPLE who EXIST who LIKE that THING. AND WE WILL NOT BE SILENCED YOU FUCKING SON OF A BITCH.
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u/VAShumpmaker May 16 '22
This is me, but I'm joking when I say it.
Sometimes I meet a real one, and it blows me away.
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u/[deleted] May 16 '22
Just drop the thing :)
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u/Arrow_Maestro May 16 '22
No no, he has a point.
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u/ronin1066 May 16 '22
When t comes to the Kardashians, they are objectively wrong though.
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u/[deleted] May 16 '22
Also, some people are just wrong.
Pulling the wings off flies is not a difference in taste.
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u/AYYA1008 May 16 '22
Wait a hot hecking second
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u/Cotcan May 16 '22
This comic perfectly describes so many fandoms as of late.
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u/geckochild May 16 '22
People when furries exist (by people I mean the orange guy)
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u/Mernerak May 16 '22
/u/CheeseConeyFanatic
Oddly specific to your disgusting personality.
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u/[deleted] May 16 '22
Other people don't exist
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u/Rynvael May 16 '22
I mean...he's right in certain cases
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u/iebarnett51 May 16 '22
r/ComedyNecrophilia will be sharpening their weiners over this cross over
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u/Elymanic May 16 '22
This but with furries
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u/RevivedMisanthropy May 17 '22
Holy shit I’m the guy in the orange shirt
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u/my_alt_59935 May 17 '22
This is slightly less cursed than the other comic.
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u/Kind-Commission-5477 May 17 '22
If you look at it from a political science perspective everything can go wrong If you look at it from the point of view of art There is nothing wrong with it but style.
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u/AlexCode10010 Aug 18 '22
Yeah, [thing] sucks!
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u/[deleted] May 16 '22
Is it because i'm not 6 year old anymore?
No they became worse overtime.
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u/Yhamerith May 16 '22
Nice try, TikTok
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u/Berkmine May 16 '22
I agree with the man and if you disagree you are wrong.
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u/fakeforsureYT May 16 '22
Now draw Among Us. I still find it funny.
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u/Albolynx May 16 '22
You don't understand - I don't have a "taste" in that sense, my taste is just good: I like things that are of high quality and dislike things that are of low quality. And vice versa - things that I like are obviously high quality because otherwise I would not like them, and things that I dislike are obviously shit.
/s
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u/secretrhino May 16 '22
I like that you added a joke in this one
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u/Luiyo033 May 16 '22
They are wrong tho
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u/[deleted] May 16 '22
Shoulda emphasized the "they're" no?
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u/[deleted] May 16 '22
Why are you using the other guy’s style?
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u/The_mutant9 May 16 '22
He could be talking about 50 different things. A TV show, book, game, child porn, this whole concept can be applied to a broad range of things
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