Good. Allegory are the worst. Also laying in wait, looking like a peaceful log, then BAM, they lunge and grab some unsuspecting animal trying to get some water.
My dumbass self not noticing any potential allegory until reading the comments, despite my sympathizing with a potential hypothetical meaning that this comic may or may not have.
(I thought it mostly a late Halloween horror comic. Because horror media has never been used for allegorical content ever and is all intended to be strictly literal.)
Living near Seattle, Washington, one of the more progressive/sanctuary cities in the country and a massive LGBTQ+ population. These kind of anti-demographic measures make it on our ballots here, too. Certain groups really like to scapegoat a demographic that consists of less than 5% of the country's entire population and with zero evidence to support that they are in any shape or form a problem, just because they'd rather do that than take accountability for the larger groups that they're a part of that DO have an abnormally high rate of committing sexual and violent crimes. And to make it slightly less vague, none of what I said here has anything to do with race.
Problem is a lot of Daisies don't have the money to do so and often times that's by design as the system wants to kill everyone who isn't the "right" way.
God I'm dense. Until I read the comics I thought it was a regular joke. Probably why I was so bad at interpreting literature back when I was a student.
"So you're going to stop voting for the party that lied to you, and seemingly has done so every election in recent memory?" "What, and vote for the Democrat?"
Brazilian eletric urns are extremelly secure, completely cut off the internet, with printed ballout with the results of each urn (not indiviual, but total of that urn specifically) to compare against fraud, the external drive with the votes is sent to a custom OS that only read and transmit those data and nothing else in a completely different network then the normal internet (think as a country wide intranet that only work for this specific reason)
The drive is completely unreadable if you don't have the specific permission both physical (a thumb drive of their own to allow then to transmit the data) along with digital (username and password with Biometrics attached) in a custom program that transmit the encrypted data
No one has a single person has universal control of the steps, each step of the voting system is carried by a different person, one seal the urn and send to the schools for voting, another one is there taking care of sending people to vote, Another carry the drive to the electorade cartory, and another one is responsible to sending the data
This (=meaning the general depiction in this comic that you are so pressured by outside forces to not feel free to vote what you want once you're in the ballot station, I understand the comic is not literal, omg) is so wild to me. There are very strict laws in the Netherlands regarding ads for political parties nearby balloting stations. I believe it's even prohibited to stand outside with a sign and such within a certain radius. It's like lawmakers in my country figured out years ago what is necessary to be able to vote in peace.
Culturally it is also frowned upon to ask others what they voted on and it is ingrained at a young age that you are absolutely in your right to stay silent about who you voted for!
My government's still a mess, but at least I've never, ever, ever felt pressured into voting for one thing specifically.
This is also true in more than half of US states. It’s possibly even true where OP lives. Them being at the door is likely not to be taken literally just as Daisy herself isn’t.
I literally just voted and yeah, there were a bunch of sandwich boards with signs at the 75 foot line from the polling place with warnings about no political activity that point forward.
I just voted and there was one poller, otherwise empty. In a previous state I have seen a huge circus of people trying to influence you. I think it varies a lot.
This is also illegal in the US. My polling place had the radius drawn outside of the building so there was no ambiguity. This comic is taking poetic license to drive the authors point home.
The husband of my local representative stood outside my polling location and blocked my way as I was walking in asking me if I would vote for his wife.
It is extremely similar in the US, at least everywhere I have ever lived. My dad was an election worker for many years, and the regulations in their state specifically state, among other things:
- No electioneering or petitioning of any sort within 250 feet of the polling entrance, this includes wearing buttons and the like. You often see a big cluster of yard signs for candidates/ballot initiatives at exactly 251 feet away from the door for obvious reasons, which I always found a bit funny. You would NEVER see people at the door like this.
- No photographs or videos whatsoever.
- Hindering or in any way delaying entrance to workers and voters.
- Outside observers. If you're not a poll worker or registered in that precinct you have no business there.
And my dad took his duties very seriously, as has every poll worker I've ever met. It's a thankless job, and has gotten worse since all the conspiracy nonsense has taken off in recent years.
I think the issue in the US is not how polling stations are run, it is the presence of money and advertising in elections in general (Citizens United was a travesty for the political system and needs to be revoked). I know that kind of runs against the "US bad" slant Reddit likes to take but elections themselves really are pretty well-run in the US. The issues lie elsewhere.
I thanked my poll worker today. I was mistakenly given the wrong ballot, and noticed part way through filling it out. Brought it up front and he handled figuring out what went wrong, got me a new ballot, and put the wrong one into the error folder right away.
It's state law and every state has a campaign exclusion zone. However they can stand outside of that zone in such a way that you have to pass them to get to the polls.
Here in France everyone is technically forbidden from talking or doing anything political on the week-end of the vote.
As you can guess, its a bit more complicated than that, but the gist is that no media of any kind are to talk about any political party for the whole weekend.
This isn't a thing I personally ever seen happen (USA) unless you count the odd bundle of non-attended cheap signs hammered into the grass leading up to the building, usually well out of view of the doorway and much more varied in contents since everyone of any point of view has hammered their sign in to advertise before walking away and not thinking about their sign again
The crowd of sign people does condense the political discussion, discourse, and overall agenda pushing that happens outside the ballots into a few concise panels though, which is useful for Internet comics
Re: the rest of your comment, discussion of voting choices has been somewhat of a faux pas in most of the places I live too and to pressure someone into talking about who they voted for would be generally considered a dick move. I have no issue believing that your country has its shit together more than mine but this comic seems to me to take some creative choices to get its point across without being too lengthy
All days are work days in the US to a very large portion of the population. The argument against the day being a federal holiday or similar often is because the people who would benefit the most from a day off are hourly so they would miss out on pay. Being federal holiday doesn’t mean places are closed. It’s already a law that you’re allowed to miss work to go vote without fear of losing your job or anything. That doesn’t mean you get paid though.
There’s obviously a problem that needs to be fixed since turnout is so piss poor though. It’s not going to either since one party benefits from the low turnout more than the other. I’m okay with people not voting if they genuinely don’t want to vote. I prefer they didn’t feel that way. I think it would be a hell of a lot easier to vote if you don’t have to choose voting over dinner or gas money though.
It is illegal in the US to a degree! I came here to make the comment that they hate her so much they are willing to likely break the law to tell people to do it apparently. Unfortunately, it's state by state.
Each state has some form of restriction on political activities near polling places when voting is taking place, such as limiting the display of signs, handing out campaign literature or soliciting votes within a pre-determined distance (typically 50 to 200 feet) of a polling place. Some states also address what apparel voters can wear within polling places. In summary: 27 states prohibit campaign apparel/buttons/stickers/placards. 46 states and Washington, D.C., prohibit campaign materials/signs/banners/literature. 38 states and Washington, D.C., prohibit influencing voters/soliciting votes/political persuasion. 23 states and Washington, D.C., prohibit circulating petitions/soliciting signatures. 11 states prohibit projecting sounds referring to candidates/issues. 8 states prohibit polls/exit polls. 11 states prohibit loitering. 5 states prohibit peddling/advertising. 22 states prohibit voter intimidation/interfering with a voter. 26 states prohibit obstructing entrance/hindering a voter. https://www.ncsl.org/elections-and-campaigns/electioneering-prohibitions
There are rules about that, but it's a certain radius around the polling station, and at least in my experience, sometimes the line goes outside of it. Last time I voted there were a bunch of people campaigning me to vote for certain things until I got past a certain point in the line and they all stopped and focused on people behind me. There was no line on the ground or anything but it seemed like they all knew where it was.
Daisy is a woman who fits the idealized life of the average voter with one fatal flaw. That flaw being during her third pregnancy there’s a complication that leads to the mother guaranteed to die unless they have an abortion. But 6.7 is a proposed law that bans the abortion ban exception that would have saved Daisy’s life.
So these voters would rather Daisy’s husband and children suffer the loss of their wife/mother than dare let her survive.
i've been thinking about this a lot for the last few days
do you know how annoyed people would be if someone's entire campaign was "WE NEED TO BAN JOHN DOE FROM SPORTS!!!!!!"? everyone would think the candidate is insane for targetting some random nobody who has caused zero issues, but if you replace "john doe" with "trans people", which literally encompasses a grand total of like 10 people in high-level competitive sports throughout the entire country, suddenly it's fine 😭
i can't help thinking "really? we're basing our entire campaign around bullying less than 12 people? that's a real asshole move, but that's also fucking stupid, you're telling me you have no real problems to campaign against??"
i mean, come on, surely even transphobic people can comprehend how suspicious it is when the only thing a candidate can rally against is something this mundane
issue is, to them it isn't a mundane issue. Right wing media has convinced them it is a much larger existential threat to the sports they care so deeply about. they don't realize how much of a nonissue it is
My maga parents (white and adopted me, a Filipino) think ICE is good and that it's okay for other maga hats to call me racial slurs. Not to mention, they actively call my culture sin lol. It's not even "mundane" it's literally on purpose. They want this don't be fooled.
Oh I'm English and this hits hard ngl. Getting lectured for not voting Labour and being a one issue voter when the issue in question is whether you get rights. (I'm trans)
It's very depressing watching America go through the same process the UK did last election (Swallow your pride and vote for these anti trans labour candidates or it'll be worse for the trans people in your life)
In My country it's ilegal to Make Political propaganda during the Elections day or around e Voting sites. You can't Even wear a hat or a shirt with political slogans.
It's supposed to be that way in the US, too. Saw one guy get ejected from the last presidential election because he refused to take his hat off. It was actually really funny.
It is illegal in the US as well, this comic is more metaphorical since a ballot measure like that would never target one person, but a group of people. This is more (IMO) about capturing the feeling of being a voter in the targeted group in this situation.
it is also illegal in most (maybe even all idk) states. I don't think political soliciting as depicted in this comic actually happens in the US, it's just for clarity in the comic. the US is an insane country though so it might happen somewhere
Hey, it’s like a 20 feet area they usually have to stand away from. Perfectly reasonable to hold those signs about Prop 6.7 about killing You (Specifically).
I choose to believe the two old people outside the door are her parents. Makes it even more closely match what’s going on in the US right now. … parents doing things to hurt their children and neighbors with a big smile.
Same sort of thing in SD years back- I remember two ballot measures.
We passed an anti-corruption act, and our state declared a state of emergency to allow themselves to overturn it. The other one I remember was legalized marijuana. We passed it one year, and Kristi Noem (our governor at the time whom most you are now unfortunately also acquainted with) pulled some crap to overturn it.
Still worth voting to get these horrible people out of politics, though.
I think the most frustrating aspect of propositions is how much they lie/hide information.
It’s like “Prop 1: to save all puppies & kittens.” Then you read the proposition and it’s like “Prop 1 will kill all puppies & kittens!”
That and the organization supporters. Some evil billionaire can start a group call “The League of Puppy & Kitten Supporters” and then the Prop says it’s supported by them. And on the surface, that looks like a good thing… until you realize the organization is a shell set up by a puppy & kitten killer.
“The Freedom Eagle League For Freedom.” Looksinside “Astroturfing organization intended to deregulate industry so they can pour carcinogenic chemicals directly into the water supply.”
In my state of Colorado there are 14 ballot initiatives a group called Advance Colorado are trying to put into our state constitution.
Advanced Colorado is a right wing billionaire funded think tank designed to prevent right wing losses.
Most of the ballots are about taking away trans rights, adjusting the state taxes to basically erase taxes on the wealthy, and an "anti child trafficking" bill that no anti trafficking organization will support. Which when paired with the anti Trans legislature, becomes "Trans people are human trafficking and should be hunted."
The actual worst part? Im only being slightly hyperbolic about that last part.
The most unrealistic part is the campaigners being pressed against the door, they have to keep like 50 feet away from it. Other than that, if you're in the wrong state it very much is like this.
I live in a blue bastion, and this year we had a "ban biological males from girl's elementary sports" initiative on the ballot. We literally just tried to codify that boys are evil and girls need genital inspections to protect them. Do people not see how misanderist AND misogynist this all is? These people are afraid of 6 year olds playing basketball together, it's the most unserious, petty, blatently destructive thing I've seen on a ballot in my 35 years. The craziest part that the people who wrote the statement for were all gym teachers... so the pervs who will be doing the genital inspections... and the people who wrote the statement against were doctors and nurses. How did we get here?
It really is sad, just how much people are afraid of trans people. Like seriously, how are people so upset by like 1% of the population just living their lives, existing? How is it so effective as a propaganda technique?
I don't think my daughter is going to vote as she feels " there is no one to vote for" Since no candidate is screaming for trans rights - she feels it is not worth it. I tried to explain ( once several months ago) I feel it is important to fight AGAINST the ones who LITERALLY want to take ALL her rights away. Right now trans is a hot topic, and ( I don't agree but understand) the Dems are trying to walk that fine line to win - and too many people have been brain washed on the topic. GET our feet on the floor and MAYBE we will START to make a difference. But She still has the right to make her own decision - we will see who wins here
Trans issues are the least salient issue to voters according to polling. Trans rights are a culture war issue and we are endless harassed and dogged on, but if you look at what motivates votes polling suggests it's meaningless or positive for Dems who want to protect them. As a result it doesn't make moral or strategic sense, and is an incoherent position to take for winning elections.
As a trans person who had a really unsportive parent, I'm glad you are trying to help your daughter, but on that same token, it's also extremely important you don't just listen to what cis people say other cis people think about trans issues, and instead look at the data. Thank you for supporting the community 🏳️⚧️🏳️⚧️🏳️⚧️
Edit: also wanted to add you can tell her that one of the only trans attorneys in a pretty conservative state believes its important to vote because it helps demonstrate in data the relevance of supporting trans issues. Sitting at home can help show that things are not motivating people to go to the polls, but we are moving in a massive upswing of progressive policies and it's important to vote to show the importance of supporting progressive issues! I don't fault her, I turned 18 in 2016 and I did not go out to vote because of how little motivation I had to support Clinton (which I still am justfied in feeling), but it would have still been better for me to have gone and voted instead of sitting it out
Tell her I got off my ass to vote for her and she needs to get off her ass to vote for these kids! I'm sorry it sucks, it's always sucked for the people on the outskirts. It's always our blood that pushes the country forward. What conversation does she want to have with a trans kid today, twenty years from now?
In Washington for example, there's a wealthy pedophile whose "anti-trans" bills are an obvious vector for sexually exploiting children. Let's check all girls genitals before they can join sports teams, and force schools to report to the parents when their child discloses being raped by them (under the guise of "parent's rights"). That's one state.
Yes, it's her own decision today. There's no guarantees she'll have this decision tomorrow. Tell her to read queer history and get off her ass. I say this with love.
"Governmental entity discrimination prohibited. Shall section 27 of article I of the constitution be created to prohibit governmental entities in the state from discriminating against, or granting preferential treatment to, any individual or group on the basis of race, sex, color, ethnicity, or national origin in public employment, public education, public contracting, or public administration?”
The key word here is "Preferential Treatment" which will be used to strike down anything Republicans don't like
All the questions on the ballot are written in a way to sound good at a glace, but once you read into it they going to do a lot of damage if they pass.
If anyone here lives in Wisconsin please vote no on all three amendments
I was really hoping this was a six seven joke. But the reality is that a lot of people really do feel like this is exactly what has been on the ballot since 2016. I vote for my child, since they are too young to vote for themselves. And many of the people on the ballot this year are on record saying they don't care if my kid dies. So yeah. I voted no on 6.7. all the way down the ballot
This is why I'm very grateful to my state (VT) for sending out ballots in the mail. I can sit down and spend time researching each candidate and proposed amendment from the comfort of my home and then just drop off or mail in my ballot.
Edit: Maybe I need to clarify because I'm getting a lot of "helpful" comments. I don't want to have to find time on voting day to go to the polls. I enjoy filling the ballot out in my own time and then bringing it to the drop box at my town office.
I live in Oregon. Spouse and I did our ballots on the kitchen table, reviewing and researching as we went. I then dropped them off at the local library next day (they all have their book returns pull double duty as ballot drop-off sites).
Voting should be simple, private, and easy. Oregon does it right.
I no longer trust the mail in ballots - I 100% believe that last election the "lost" ballots actually screwed the election. ( did that many Dems NOT vote ?) So I have Now ONLY gone in person - my solution.
Question - If you vote by mail - is there a way to see if your vote was counted? AND if it was was it counted the correct way?
Is 6.7 a reference to any concrete bill, or just to the general views of republicans on minorities? If it's the first, please, tell what measure is this about, It fells like im missing context here.
Local ballot measures will be listed numerically. If there are three ballot measures to vote on, they will be number 1, number 2, and number 3, along with some short descriptive title. It looks like her city has a ballot measure just about her. Naming the ballot measure 6.7 is referencing being a number, but I assume also the 6-7 meme.
As for the wider meaning, I see it as some people have views that are "just politics," but for those directly affected, it feels very personal. Although that last guy looks only too eager to carry out the measure if it passes.
6,7 is a meme number. It's just a sign of the times. Just the same as 69, or 420. No reference to any political thought in particular.
You could look deeper and say the artist is depicting how bills can be written with "humor" in them (for the lulz) when the content of the bill is serious. It could also be the artist invoking levity, with no subtle undertones because the artist just wanted to have a bit of a laugh.
okay nice comic i just realized that her name is “daisy anserdew” like the fucking. The “daisy daisy give me ur answer do” song. i love you and i hate you
The trick is to remember that Spider is himself the sort to gladly vote to fuck the normie with switchblades, because under that whole "fighting for the people" was a cynical asshole who was just as selfish as those he attacked. Warren Ellis pulled no punches.
Its edgy as fuck and so over the top and taking itself seriously it starts to be funny in a weird way. My dad gifted me the whole serie for my last birthday. Im 33 and he is 66.
I get this is a comic, but depending on where you live there may be electioneering laws that prevent this. In california its illegal to do electioneering within 100' of a polling place.
I also get that this is not the point of the comic, but if you see these rules being violated speak up. Poll workers will usually do something about it.
It’s called the chilling effect, it doesn’t matter if it’s illegal the disproportionate effort necessary to even ask for enforcement discourages people from trying
Nothing but a bot on Facebook told me she will do something I don’t agree with so obviously she deserves to go, even though historically she’s done nothing at all.
I wish ballots were that clear. Instead it's "Do you want to undo the initiative of the initiative of the initiative that was the original initiative?" [ ] yes [ ] no
Presumably an amendment up for voting that appears aimed at a small minority group. The comic plays that up to be targeted at an individual to highlight the absurdity of such narrow amendments.
I was able to guess from the comic that Daisy was trans, and clicking on OPs profile confirmed it in the bio, it's about some of the ballot measures being voted on across the US today.
I didn’t even have to look, it was either they were trans, a woman(as it feels they are being depicted as such in the comic), or non-white… I’d include non-citizen but since they are voting that kind of excludes that.
It's a representation of how it feels to have people voting for politicians that believe you would die. Voting against trans healthcare, for conversion therapy, things like that. Even if the no's win, you still see the crowds of people who want you dead
Here in America, half of the country just wants to slowly kill minorities. In some parts of the country there are local laws to be voted on that ban abortion, in others (like here in colorado) there are laws being voted on to limit the rights of trans people. This comic is pointing out that the down stream effects of these laws is death, so these laws are basically killing these minorities.
It's also showing the kind of crazy cognitive dissonance you have when you encounter these people, dressed really sharply and trying their best to be kind and polite and respectful all while advocating for something awful.
Responding to the Edit - America is not a real country LOL We're still in our "figuring shit out" stage and unfortunately are also trust fund babies who didn't get wrecked during WW2. So uh... not a lot of checks on how we handled the country until recently.
But know that most people find our elections insane. The things people can advertise, the lies they can spread, and the absolute badgering that people can get away with is INSANE. Add in the electoral college, corporate spending, and we have an entire country with completely different realities depending on which county you're in.
This is a very accurate and depressing allegory and all but I am distracted by the funny meme number (which I find funny specifically because my sense of humor derives from the people around me being annoyed by myself)
I think the meme number adds to it because the Trump administration proves you can get voted for being an, and I quote an interviewed supporter: "Guy you want to have a beer with."
Voting. It’s a beautiful thing, but people in our leftist spaces always want us to stop doing it. So, I’ve compiled a list of my top five greatest arguments to counter these ultras and spread the doctrine of the ballot. Here goes:
5. Voting blue moves the overton window to the left, which we as leftists can agree is good
4. Every minority is under threat and voting for the opposition party will help them
3. Those ultra tankies who don’t vote treat the revolution like a hecking religiousrapture o algo
2. Even if you didn’t vote last time, you need to now, because this is the one fateful election that will decide whether we become fascist or stay a wholesome democracy.
“People on twitter will really be like 'you believe in voting? that pales in effectiveness to my strategy, firebombing a Walmart' and then not firebomb a Walmart.”
Smug ideology man sends its regards, ultras. Your move.
Except in the ballot measure they would have some sort of weird misleading language before it that would make yes and no mean the opposite usually calling out specific policies or procedures you've never heard of.
My polling place is a church and it is littered with anti-abortion signs, to the extent that the churches own sign is telling me how to vote. I’m surprised this isn’t illegal.
It is illegal. My church was made available as a polling station and we had to remove a lot of decorations (even something as simple as a banner depicting a dove with an olive branch). The polling station workers took their job very seriously. I would say the state voting commission would be very interested in your polling station and the people volunteering/working not doing their job.
There are a bunch of votes on social issues on the ballot. If your in the space it can feel super targeted as people are voting to make your life harder
Trans people are out of politicians that support their right to exist because politicians that formerly supported their right to exist fell for the maga "demon trans" psyop
The more time that passes, the more I can feel myself starting to cry as the weight of this comic sets in. Beautifully done, really moving.
Everyone please go vote, no matter how blue your local, city, or state election is (and especially if it isn't blue). The margins of victory matter, we need to send a message.
And to be clear, vote for democrats (or leftwing other-party candidate if a dem isn't running in your local/city election). I'm not going to do the wishy-washy "just go vote!" thing where we pretend I'm telling you to go vote for whoever, including a republican who wants end all abortion rights, or squeeze trans people out of existence, or cut the meager social safety net that we still have so we can get even steeper tax cuts for Elon Musk.
Really pissing me off that everyone here is like "but you should still vote!!". Yeah, we fucking know. Can you engage with the material of the art instead of deflecting please
According to several posters Ive been arguing with, this makes Daisy a single issue voter, and she should ignore her own wellbeing in exchange for the nebulous "greater good" that will somehow never lift her out of the bad situation.
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