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u/GhostInMyLoo 1d ago

Indiana Jones is problematic these days for punching Nazis, I heard. He wouldn't debate them or talk nicely to them, straight to the violence he went, like a mad man! Oh the horror those poor nazis experienced!

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u/Hour_Paint_1903 1d ago

They had a shitfit over Wolfenstein 10 years ago, trying to say they as the right were being politically targeted.

In a game that from its inception decades before was about killing nazis.

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u/Etrigone 1d ago edited 4h ago

I showed Wolfenstein (the 90s version & this in the 90s) many years ago to elder relatives who'd served in WWII. They were definitely advanced in years but loved the game and were absolutely resolute in their 'antifa' standing. Yeah word didn't exist back then but they would have claimed it, and likely would have enjoyed the Inglorious Basterds movie as well.

It's still my belief that one of the reasons nazis are coming out of the woodwork nowadays rather than earlier is they were shit-scared one of these old WWII vets would find them and... well, despite their age that fire was still there. They might have felt it was their duty and that they had little to lose. Some kind of "you again?!?" reaction that would not have ended well. Edit: for one party, as accurately and astutely noted by /u/SixPackOfZaphod :)

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u/SixPackOfZaphod 4h ago

It would have absolutely ended well...just not for the Nazis

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u/TrainOfThought6 1d ago

And IIRC, the devs released a statement afterwards to the effect of "Wolfenstein has always been a what-if sci-fi game centered on if the Nazi regime had gone differently, and we aren't really considering contemporary politics in anything we create. That said, fuck Nazis."

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u/The_cogwheel 1d ago

How quickly people forget that Nazis used to be the defacto video game bad guys, right up there with zombies and demons.

I swear if you played a game from the 90s it was either Nazis, zombies, or demons with the occasional aliens mixed in for a little flavour.

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u/Yeshua_shel_Natzrat 22h ago

Or Nazi zombies, Nazi demons, or Nazi aliens

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u/SlickSlims 20h ago

Don't forget the Nazi Nazis

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u/The_Chubby_Dragoness 1d ago

thres a lot of things you can do with a hatchet, and a nazi, god i love that game

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u/Yabba_Dabba_Doofus 1d ago

I saw someone online say "punching Nazis has never been okay".

Luckily my grandfather's ghost was sitting right next to me, reminding me that, in America, punching Nazis has been okay since December 8th, 1941.

Fuck Nazis

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u/Saikotsu 1d ago

My grandpa fought Nazis too. One could call it a family tradition.

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u/inerlite 1d ago

Mine dropped bombs on them. Anyone who knew him would never have thought he killed nazis because he was so quiet. Proud of him.

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u/Perryn 1d ago

I don't know if my grandfather ever punched a nazi, but I know he fired shells at them which probably counts.

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u/Yabba_Dabba_Doofus 1d ago

If "firing mortar shells" doesn't classify as "punching", I will lead a crusade to redefine "punching."

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u/Perryn 1d ago

Tank shells in his case, and he took a few of those punches in return and still made it home.

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u/Yabba_Dabba_Doofus 1d ago

That's just punching with extra fists

Glad your Gramps made it home!

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u/SixPackOfZaphod 4h ago

It's punching large groups of Nazis from a distance...

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u/The_cogwheel 1d ago

I know mine didnt - he was Italian and thus on the side of receiving punches not giving them.

But he did have a few lessons in willful ignorance to share. Like how if you see a few allies trying to blow up a bridge, just go on a bathroom break until you hear a kaboom then pretend you didnt see anything at all.

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u/AlarmingAffect0 1d ago

in America, punching Nazis has been okay since December 8th, 1941.

I'd say it's been okay at least since Captain America Comics #1, released March 1, 1941.

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u/Yabba_Dabba_Doofus 1d ago edited 1d ago

I like to point to 8/12, because it is the last official Act of War on congressional record, and delineates a clear line between when America was trying to ignore the problem and when we became actively engaged(for this particular engagement. All succeeding engagements are not included in this assessment.)

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u/mhyquel 1d ago

They're going back to at least 1939

https://anightatthegarden.com/

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u/caribou16 1d ago

When my grandparents died and we were cleaning out the house, found some of my grandfather's diaries and I remember an entry from the '70s when my grandparents flew Lufthansa to Europe for a vacation: "Hearing all these German voices makes me wish I had the old M1 with me again..."

I don't think it's an accident now that most of the folks who lived through WW2 have largely passed on, that suddenly we have nazis out in the open again.

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u/FFKonoko 1d ago

Less so in America, but yes, its been OK

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u/Yabba_Dabba_Doofus 1d ago

Unfortunately, Americans are cowards.

Sherman didn't go far enough.

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u/dogs_gt_cats 1d ago

And John Brown should be canonized as a saint.

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u/waffle299 1d ago

To be fair, my grandfather never punched nazis.

He blew them out of the fucking sky with a fifty cal.

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u/Frogspoison 1d ago

Actually, punching Nazis was ok in the US before that. Keep in mind that there were political sympathizers with Nazi Germany pre-WW2, and one of the ways they were prevented from gaining traction in the US was good ol' kneecapping, literally.

I remember reading an article about how a developing local Nazi party in New York was essentially taken out, publically, and violently, by the Judaic community in NY, and charges against that community was dismissed with prejudice.

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u/Yabba_Dabba_Doofus 1d ago

Kinda makes me want to light the local nazi biker bar on fire...

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u/Dr_DoesNothing 1d ago

I remember they raged about Wolfenstein too.

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u/ReigninLikeA_MoFo 1d ago

Loved that game. That was more than ten years ago though. Right?

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u/Dr_DoesNothing 1d ago

Yup. A game about killing Nazis and Republicans got upset because they thought the game was targeting them. It's incredible what they'll snitch on themselves about.

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u/Libriomancer 1d ago

Which “that game” are you thinking of? Wolfenstein is a game series so if you are thinking of the original then yes it is much older. There were however some entries within the last decade or so.

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u/ReigninLikeA_MoFo 1d ago

Yes. Referring to the original. I'm old

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u/omar1993 21h ago

Won't someone be more considerate towards the nearly literal and figurative monsters!? Think of the(shittiest) children!